Rogge's Red Reeds

TML · Post by **TML** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:19 am

Anybody know where to get hold of the red cord that Andreas Rogge uses for his reeds?

BZH29 · Post by **BZH29** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:43 am

Bow string
Look at this http://www.francearcherie.com/catalogue.php?SCID=102
I'm not sure that is the same as used by A. Rogge but I've tried it and it's not bad

djm · Post by **djm** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:01 am

If this is a big concern for you, why not write to Mr. Rogge directly and find out exactly what he uses? http://www.uilleann-pipes.de/english/index.html

djm

Elmek · Post by **Elmek** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:38 am

It is probably reed tying thread for Oboe reeds, bassoon reeds etc. and should be available from woodwind suppliers (Howarths, London. Windcraft, Slough). It comes in Red, Blue, Green, Black, White, Purple.........

PJ · Post by PJ » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:46 am

Elmek wrote:comes in Red, Blue, Green, Black, White, Purple.........

To add colour to your piping.

TML · Post by **TML** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:57 am

djm wrote:If this is a big concern for you

Red *is* a concern. I support the Reds [ http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/ ]
so it is crucial

maw · Post by **maw** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:22 am

TML wrote:
djm wrote:If this is a big concern for you
Red *is* a concern. I support the Reds [ http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/ ]
so it is crucial

So there are some decent people on this forum after all

fancypiper · Post by **fancypiper** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:41 pm

You could always get some red seal wax candles (like they used with the seal in the 1700's) and mix with beeswax in a duch oven.

Traditional/Original Sealing Wax

Then, use unwaxed dental floss and a scrap piece of leather/naugahide with a lump of your home made wax in it, draw the dental floss through the lump 3-4 times.

Now, you have some red tieing up string.

I had rather use the beeswax and the GHB piper's wax mixed, myself. It is black rather than red.

wharfedalecarving · Post by **wharfedalecarving** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:24 pm

If you want the red thread then call in to a fishing tackle shop and ask for "whipping" thread (many colours available). Anglers use it for tying on new eyes/rings to their fishing rods. It's rot proof; same thickness as standard thread usually used for reeds and it's a lot cheaper from an anglers supply than a music shop.
Joseph (the UK one)

TML · Post by **TML** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:48 am

wharfedalecarving wrote:If you want the red thread then call in to a fishing tackle shop and ask for "whipping" thread (many colours available). Anglers use it for tying on new eyes/rings to their fishing rods. It's rot proof; same thickness as standard thread usually used for reeds and it's a lot cheaper from an anglers supply than a music shop.
Joseph (the UK one)

Ahhhh - gotcha

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cheers Joseph (UK one) thanks

billh · Post by **billh** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:49 am

TML wrote:[...
Ahhhh - gotcha

<img src="http://www.fishing.co.uk/data/articleim ... 09.689.jpg" width="299" height="210">

cheers Joseph (UK one) thanks

Just note that the thread used for wrapping fishing rods is nylon, not cotton or linen, so it will act different. In my experience the nylon thread is *not* airtight unless you coat it with clear lacquer or shellac after you've wrapped it. IMO it's easier to get an airtight seal with the natural fibers, by applying beeswax.

Bill

boyd · Post by **boyd** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:05 am

At last, something that I really know .... fishing,

Whipping thread for putting eyes or whatever onto rod blanks is NOT the same thing at all, as Bill [Haneman?] says.

Andreas uses stuff that says 100% Baumwolle [cotton] and looks like a kind of sewing thread. He sent me a couple of packets of it when I asked him for some. I think he gets it from an industrial or wholesale supplier in bulk and has a heap of it sitting in a box.

Boyd

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:22 am

FWIW,

This is the best stuff for binding that I have found yet.

It is waxed linen cord and is absolutely perfect for tying reeds. In the States, it can be found at Wall Mart in the crafts section.

wharfedalecarving · Post by **wharfedalecarving** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:45 pm

TML,
I stick to my original statement re whipping thread from most good anglers suppliers.

The thread is available (and I checked with my local fishing tackle shop) in cotton, nylon & silk. Either waxed or unwaxed. The thread comes in various thicknesses too (0.3, 0.4,0.5 et cetera).
Just a couple of trade names should you need them.
Orvis and also Turrall. The spools are usually in 100yds lenght and cost on average about one UK pound (£1).
Joseph (the "pedantic" UK one)

billh · Post by **billh** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:48 pm

wharfedalecarving wrote:TML,
I stick to my original statement re whipping thread from most good anglers suppliers.

The thread is available (and I checked with my local fishing tackle shop) in cotton, nylon & silk. Either waxed or unwaxed. The thread comes in various thicknesses too (0.3, 0.4,0.5 et cetera).
Just a couple of trade names should you need them.
Orvis and also Turrall. The spools are usually in 100yds lenght and cost on average about one UK pound (£1).
Joseph (the "pedantic" UK one)

As far as I know the non-synthetic versions of this thread have not been available in the USA for many years. I know, because my father made fishing tackle as part of his business, in North Carolina. I don't doubt that things are different on this side of the water, but I myself have never seen anything but the nylon stuff.

If you have a mail order supply for linen or cotton versions, please pass it on!

regards

Bill