American Idol...alas
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American Idol...alas
The contestant who consistently does not stay on pitch gets chosen...or am I the only one who noticed this? My wife got hooked on the show a few weeks back and from all the bits I've caught Carrie seems to always stray both sharp and\or flat. It is said there is no accounting for taste but....
Cheers,
David
P.S. Vonzell's vocal talents are far superior to Carrie's but since she isn't a white blond with a toothpaste grin (and favoring country music as well) :roll:
No great surprise I suppose
Cheers,
David
P.S. Vonzell's vocal talents are far superior to Carrie's but since she isn't a white blond with a toothpaste grin (and favoring country music as well) :roll:
No great surprise I suppose
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My wife and I watched the entire season. We both agreed that Bo and Carrie were the best of the bunch. (Nadia may have the most potential, but she shot herself in the foot with song selection.) I disagree with your opinion that Vonzell has better pitch than Carrie; Vonzell was truly atrocious sometimes. Carrie also has a much broader range in the types of music she can sing. I thought she did every bit as well doing Pat Benetar as doing Dixie Chicks. Vonzell pretty much turned everything she sang into a Whitney song.
I personally thought Bo should have won because there are fewer Bos out there than there are Carries, but not because I thought Carrie didn't deserve it.
PS -- I think Vonzell has damn near as much babe factor going for her as Carrie.
I personally thought Bo should have won because there are fewer Bos out there than there are Carries, but not because I thought Carrie didn't deserve it.
PS -- I think Vonzell has damn near as much babe factor going for her as Carrie.
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Re: American Idol...alas
I don't think any racial charges can fairly be lodged against AI, whatever else you might say about it.Feadan wrote: P.S. Vonzell's vocal talents are far superior to Carrie's but since she isn't a white blond with a toothpaste grin
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But I do think her All American good looks, couple with the crappiest original songs ever, did Bo in.
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Yeah... posthumously....Denny wrote:...no to "TV things" or "get one"scottielvr wrote:Umm...no.Denny wrote:Is this one of those TV things?
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Figures, I guess. Grandpa used to watch them. 'course he has been gone for forty some years...Walden wrote:Yeah... posthumously....Denny wrote:...no to "TV things" or "get one"scottielvr wrote: Umm...no.
I didn't like TV that much last time I saw it. Is Mitch Miller still doing a show?
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Carrie can sing. Some of the songs were new to Carrie, and performing live in front of every one you know has got to be nerve-wracking. How many Chiffers have reported being flustered just playing whistle into a mic for recording? Magnify that about a million times and then imagine trying to sing on pitch with no teleprompter, no lyrics in front of you, singing a new song that no one knows. Knowing that the next 90 seconds may make or break your career. It is amazing to me that any amateur sings on pitch under those conditions.
I can remember one early round contestant that sounded nice while rehearsing in the restroom, but when it came time to sing for the judges, sounded like a dying bird. Nerves can and will do that.
I do think Bo got the short end of the songs. Carrie's final song was made popular by an Australian Idol winner, and was performed at the AI Christmas special. I believe that familiarity gave Carrie a big enough boost to win.
Carrie and Bo are the most marketable. Anwar, Vonzell, and some others had there moments, but I have no problems with the finalists. In the past, two out of four AI winners, Fantasia and Reuben were African Americans. So if there is any bias, it is the other way, that it is twice as hard for a white person to win as a black person, considering that two blacks have won and less than a third of all finalists from all seasons were black. Playing the race card here is inappropiate.
What is clear is that finalists from big cities have a tough time getting from week eight to week three. Small town voting where a finalist is big news is a decisive factor in the middle rounds. For that reason, I wasn't at all surprised to see Constantine and other big city contestants from previous seasons booted off during those middle weeks.
The most extreme example of local support was Jasmine from Hawaii where that state with 1% of the population usually weighed in with 5% or more of the total phone-in vote. That was enough to carry Jasmine to the top three. Even in a relatively sparsely populated county where Carrie is from, I'm sure they can muster many thousands of dedicated voters all on speed dial. That just isn't going to happen in New York, Philadelphia or other big cities.
I can remember one early round contestant that sounded nice while rehearsing in the restroom, but when it came time to sing for the judges, sounded like a dying bird. Nerves can and will do that.
I do think Bo got the short end of the songs. Carrie's final song was made popular by an Australian Idol winner, and was performed at the AI Christmas special. I believe that familiarity gave Carrie a big enough boost to win.
Carrie and Bo are the most marketable. Anwar, Vonzell, and some others had there moments, but I have no problems with the finalists. In the past, two out of four AI winners, Fantasia and Reuben were African Americans. So if there is any bias, it is the other way, that it is twice as hard for a white person to win as a black person, considering that two blacks have won and less than a third of all finalists from all seasons were black. Playing the race card here is inappropiate.
What is clear is that finalists from big cities have a tough time getting from week eight to week three. Small town voting where a finalist is big news is a decisive factor in the middle rounds. For that reason, I wasn't at all surprised to see Constantine and other big city contestants from previous seasons booted off during those middle weeks.
The most extreme example of local support was Jasmine from Hawaii where that state with 1% of the population usually weighed in with 5% or more of the total phone-in vote. That was enough to carry Jasmine to the top three. Even in a relatively sparsely populated county where Carrie is from, I'm sure they can muster many thousands of dedicated voters all on speed dial. That just isn't going to happen in New York, Philadelphia or other big cities.