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Whistling Pops wrote:I really haven't started learning yet. Just bought about a dozen whistles...
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a lot of negative responses out there..
cant judge a project on a previous failed one..
done some more research on the project..
Mr Donohoe won the Digital media award for e-learning in the Burlington Hotel this year.
It is a very well planned out project and it doesnt look like its gonna be a failure, in fact, quite the opposite..Its is backed by Athlone education centre and they have provided a lot of resources for it as well as some other sponsorers..
At present he is conducting live music lessons in certain schools around the country through the internet using specialised software.
The website is an additional resource which the schools have access to, and contains all the course content, ie the first 10 lessons for the beginner, all the theory associated, the notation for the tunes, and 3 different backing tracks for each tune in each lesson...
Tin-whistle only, piano only and tin-whistle and piano together.
Also video clips for each lesson.
The website is designed as a seperate product for the beginner tin-whistle player in which after payment of the fee, as with any music lesson, has access to all the course content for approx 10 weeks which is ample time to view and download all the material from the site.
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corrcullen wrote:Heres an interesting new website for tin-whistle players, especially learners..
The website may be interesting, or it may be not. There's just no way of telling as long as there is nothing to see but a welcome page that doesn't really tells you much.
corrcullen wrote:a lot of negative responses out there..
cant judge a project on a previous failed one..
done some more research on the project..
(...)
At present he is conducting live music lessons in certain schools around the country through the internet using specialised software.
(...).

If it's a site aimed at national school pupils, you may wonder if it's suitable for adults.

Google.ie does not yield any hits for this site or the awards won. The only reference is on the Althlone education site:
· Feadóg On-Line: Feadóg On-Line is an innovative project designed to deliver music tuition on the tin whistle via a broadband Internet connection. Athlone Education Centre working with local Music teacher Mr. James Donohoe piloted a ten-week course of instruction prior to Christmas. This involved James Donohoe teaching from his house in Mount Temple to a group of students in Athleague National School, Co. Roscommon. The project was a huge success and was recently awarded 1st Prize in the E-learning category of the National Digital Media Awards held in the Burlington Hotel, Dublin.
Which is all fine but are you sure you are not involved in the project yourself doing a bit of PR? You certainly seem to be aware of content of the site while nobody else is able to view.
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Whistling Pops wrote:It seems like with all the talent and knowledge out there someone could create a series of lessons
Try Brother Steve's Tin-Whistle Pages.

Also, Whistletutor.com, Tony Dixon's tutorial, and The Whistle Workshop.
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http://nigelgatherer.com/whistle/tut.html

This is another website tutorial that has simple Scottish tunes. There is a lot of other interesting material at this website as well.
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What a clever fellow! :lol: Yep, I think it will help.
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Interesting!

Definitely for small children--Mary had a Little Lamb, Silent Night, Away in a Manger, and so forth. Probably suitable for absolute beginner adults, if in one or two lessons, perhaps. I don't think it would take ten weeks, and if you already had some clues about notes and whatnot, you could do the whole thing in about 30 minutes.

The really curious part was the one song "The Bog Down in the Valley Oh." To hear the music and lyrics of that song sung, you had to click on a link to, of all things, the Bard Marc Gunn Celtic Folk Music website in Austin, Texas. :D

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Wonder if the Bard knows! :o
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Cynth wrote:What a clever fellow! :lol:
Isn't it funny it's always the newly registered users that come in out of the woodwork on these occasions.

If it is what I think, the owner of the website doing a bit of PR, why not just come forward and let us know about the website?

In itself the website does what it set out to do, teach children a few beginner tunes. Personally, I would have liked to see it go beyond that stage and maybe touch on a few ornamentation issues and styles, moving towards playing traditional stuff. The links provided, the Riverdamce website and a site of midi files are maybe an indication that wasn't really on the cards.
The whole thing leaves me with a feeling of total indifference, it's not particularly bad but it's not exactly inspiring (or inspired) either. There's better teaching available.
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Peter Laban wrote:
Cynth wrote:What a clever fellow! :lol:
Isn't it funny it's always the newly registered users that come in out of the woodwork on these occasions.
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In another thread, there is a discussion in which I said that newbies were slammed when they posted, and I was criticized for saying that and accused of making things up.

The above is exactly what I was talking about. Cynth has only been registered since November. SO WHAT! She has as much right to post as you do, Peter.
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Peggy wrote:
In another thread, there is a discussion in which I said that newbies were slammed when they posted, and I was criticized for saying that and accused of making things up.

The above is exactly what I was talking about. Cynth has only been registered since November. SO WHAT! She has as much right to post as you do, Peter.
I got the impression that Peter is implying that corrcullen is the 'newbie' in question and is somehow involved in the project, promoting it on the sly so to speak.
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Peggy wrote:
In another thread, there is a discussion in which I said that newbies were slammed when they posted, and I was criticized for saying that and accused of making things up.

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I actually meant the man who in his first post managed to make the website available, peterpanman. The one Cynth was referring to as 'a clever guy' Corcullen could be in the same vein though, he has been asked in his first thread if he was for real. But maybe that's just the impression he is giving.
He is however suddenly promoting a site nobody but himself seems to be able to get a look in, when called on that suddenly someone appears with the key.

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These lessons seem sort of like the lessons my nieces had in the fourth grade when everyone in class had to play violin. It seemed like it was for children just to be exposed to playing music and maybe some would go on with more challenging lessons in private.

I guess the video conferencing might liven things up. I suppose they have to use songs like Mary Had a Little Lamb because it is easier for children to learn something they already know. Maybe little kiddies haven't heard it as many times as I have. A couple of the later tunes sounded nice.

It does seem a bit odd about how it was presented here. I can't see why they would need to make a mystery about it though.

Peggy and I were just in a couple threads that suddenly got really mean, so we are both feeling a little jumpy at the moment. :)
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Hello all,

Sorry to create such a controversy in the group. I'm simply a guy who has recently taken an interest in the tin whistle and am trying to find sites that show how to play it properly. I just recently discovered Chiff and Fipple and decided to have a look at their user forum. That's when the subject of this thread caught my eye--'Teaching tin-whistle online'. I didn't realize that by figuring out how to view the pages I'd cause such an uproar.(edited by moderator)I can assure you that I'm in no way affiliated with the owner of the site.

By the way, one of the best training sites that I've found thus far for tin whistle newbies is http://www.whistletutor.com. If offers streaming video showing how to play the tin whistle. And no, I don't know him either. This is just one of many tin whistle sites I've come across in my search to further my meager tin whistle knowledge.
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:lol: If you think this was uproar, stick around. Seriously though, it seems a bit convenient. I don't know. These things happen on a fairly regular basis, someone appears out of nowhere and starts up 'I just wanted to let you know about /a website I just discovered/ a whistlemaker I just found / the wonderful internetshop I just ordered my new susato from, it gives a free pouch and their customer service is great'. It's usually fairly harmless but ever so silly. This thread sounds like the latest instalment of such a scam.

EDIT:

I was sent this in PM, seems I am not the only one thinking the 'Corcullen fella' is very keen to promote this teaching site:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=254008

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