When I read this I chuckled but wound up with a headache...

peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:58 pm

The Unitarian / Universalist Jihad:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... BCFLG1.DTL

The only mistake they made: they only mentioned coffee once.

--James

anniemcu · Post by **anniemcu** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:04 pm

peeplj wrote:The Unitarian / Universalist Jihad:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... BCFLG1.DTL

The only mistake they made: they only mentioned coffee once.

--James

At my UU Church, coffee is a bit more important than a single mention. I guess I'll read it anyway...

LOL! That is excellent! I sent it to my own church members... we'll begin meeting in earnest on this as soon as we get back from summer break.

Lambchop · Post by **Lambchop** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:31 pm

spittin_in_the_wind · Post by **spittin_in_the_wind** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:35 pm

anniemcu wrote:
peeplj wrote:The Unitarian / Universalist Jihad:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... BCFLG1.DTL

The only mistake they made: they only mentioned coffee once.

--James
At my UU Church, coffee is a bit more important than a single mention. I guess I'll read it anyway...

LOL! That is excellent! I sent it to my own church members... we'll begin meeting in earnest on this as soon as we get back from summer break.

Right on, Sister!

Robin

Walden · Post by **Walden** » Wed May 04, 2005 10:44 pm

The UU Jihad even has an article in Wikipedia.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:58 am

I've read that before, and it rather disturbs me.

"Jihad" can mean "inward struggle," but in English it almost always means "holy war."

By the tone of the article, I can't really bring myself to find mocking war funny. War is the most serious thing in the world. I don't understand how any war can be holy.

Grenades, flaming swords, and guns cannot be instruments of peace (or humor), in my view.

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:05 am

Now that is hilarious.

I don't think war is funny. I think warmongers are ridiculous which isn't the same as finding them funny. The best way of attacking things that are nasty, serious and ridiculous I know of is satire. This is very effective satire.

Flyingcursor · Post by **Flyingcursor** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:48 am

I want to be Brother Stilletto of Bliss. Or if that's taken, Brother ICBM of Joy.

missy · Post by **missy** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:12 am

what do you get when you mix a Unitarian with a Jehovah's Witness?

Someone who knocks on doors for no apparent reason!

Missy

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:15 am

Missy, in case you didn't know, Jehovah's Witnesses are already unitarian.

They reject the Trinity as non-biblical.

peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:29 am

Cranberry wrote:Missy, in case you didn't know, Jehovah's Witnesses are already unitarian.

They reject the Trinity as non-biblical.

Jehovah's Witnesses may not accept the doctrine of the trinity, so in that sense I suppose they are unitarian.

However, they have nothing --at all-- to do with the Unitarian / Universalist Church.

By the way, the idea of anybody making jihad -- "holy way" -- isn't funny. What's funny is the idea of a bunch of U/U members trying to even get aggressive with anybody.

Historically, though, they did do a good job of smuggling people out of Nazi Germany: they got a lot of folks out to safety, and risked their own lives doing it. So there ya go.

--James

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:33 am

In regards to Jehovah's witnesses, the ones I know usually use the word "nontrinitarian" instead of "unitarian," for what it's worth. I think it is because "unitarian" is usually associated with the Unitarian Universalists, but the two words historically mean the same thing (the rejection of the Trinity).

There are lots of faiths that are unitarian without being universalist, of course.

Flyingcursor · Post by **Flyingcursor** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:45 am

Can I change my name to "Brother ICBM of Autoerotic Asphyxiation?"

Actually there's a lot I like about the Unitarians and that other one....Um....Oh yeah, Unity. At least some things I like.

I.D.10-t · Post by **I.D.10-t** » Thu May 05, 2005 6:11 am

This satire is in the same realms as “the church of the sub genius” and that of Discordianism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Jihad

Each seems to be themed on a different group.
Church_of_the_SubGenius has the X-day instead of the rapture, Discordianism has been compaired to many eastern religions, etc.

It seems strange that they are combining two different philosophy's U/U and Islam. I guess I do not understand the connection. Although I doubt that Jon Carroll had any intention of this being anything but a side note. It seem that other people are finding something in it.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:09 am

I.D.10-t wrote:It seems strange that they are combining two different philosophy's U/U and Islam. I guess I do not understand the connection.

Indeed. Unitarian Universalism supposedly encompasses Islam, but the same can hardly be said the other way around--Islam is probably the most un-universalist (I can't think of another word?) religion in all of history.

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