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Danner · Post by **Danner** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:06 pm

What low D should I get?

Okay, here's my story. I really need/want a low D, but I really don't have a lot of money. (I'm 13, so the only job I can get is as church musician. I don't think my parents will help either.) So, I can't just keep buying whistles until I find something I like. There's no way I can go try any out either.

I could really use some help. Here are the qualifications for said whistle (in order of priority):
1. Loud or at least something that can cut through large groups (I'm talking keeping up with 5 fiddles-possibly even more, 4 harps, a mandolin, and a bodhran)
2. A quality whistle that will grow with me and won't have to be upgraded in like 2 weeks, but will still be easy for a beginner on lows
3. I think I should be okay with finger spacing, but I don't want something that's too huge
4. I'd like something that's as easy to play jigs and reels on as airs.

-Type of whistle doesn't really matter to me. (I'm pretty sure I don't want a Susato though.) I like the clear Burke kind of sound, the breathy Clarke sound, the trad Gen sound- I like whistles, I don't want anything that sounds like a reco****.
-I don't think breath requirements really will matter either.
-I like metal whistles, but anything's fine.

Thank you to anyone who gives me real advice instead of sending me to the C&F hall of shame for asking advice on whistle buying. I hope someone can think of something (hopefully under $200) that fits at least most of these criteria. Again, I'm really sorry for bringing this up once again, but I really could use some help.

Unseen122 · Post by **Unseen122** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:17 pm

Alba is probaly the way to go, go to http://www.gaeliccrossings.com they have a good selection of Albas I would suggest getting something tunable I had my high D Alba at a Session last week 4 fiddlers, 4 bodhrans, 3 Flutes, Box, Concertina, 1 Guitar, and about 5 other whistlers using mostly Burkes and one had an old Gen the point is I could hear myself over all of this. I have never tryed their low whistles but their high whistles are superb it won't cost over $120 it is Brushed aluminum they look and sound great.

I know the situation you are in yuong no job no money and have Whoa and your parents say stuff like "Why do you need more Whistles?" in fact it was me until I got a job last year if you are wondering I myself will turn 16 this month. I can say I am really happy my parents helped in buying my Great Highland Bagpipes of course I have to pay them back but still.

IDAwHOa · Post by **IDAwHOa** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:46 pm

I had a Burke composite low D that sounded very nice and had good volume. If I was not so hooked on my Overton and Bleazey low D's I would have kept it.

Hornpiper · Post by **Hornpiper** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:16 pm

Get a New Range Chieftain Low D - you can buy them directly from Phil Hardy's website. www.kerrywhistles.com

Magnificent instruments - they'll definitely fit the bill!

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:54 am

I'd recommend an Overton if you can afford one or find one second hand at a good price. There are other good instruments at or around that price but they are truly exceptional value. I predict that you might buy other low Ds later but you will never want to sell your Overton.

I honestly don't think that you can find one that will be audible in a large ensemble without amplification. (It's not just a matter of being able to hear yourself, you would want other people to be able to hear you.)

toughknot · Post by **toughknot** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:55 am

I agree with the Cheiftain New Range. Howard will also meet your needs.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:05 am

I think the Alba and the Chieftain New Range both will probably fit the bill here.

Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:59 am

A low D that will keep up with 5 fiddles and an assortment of other instruments? Sorry, I just don't think it can be done. Low whistles are by nature on the quiet side of things.

Now, a flute, on the other hand...

Henke · Post by **Henke** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:17 am

I second what Jens said. I do love low whistles too but I haven't found one with that much volume. If you want to play Tenor loud you'd best go with a wooden flute. A flute is harder to learn but when you get the hang of it they are alot more expressive that a low whistle. You might want to check out the flute Andrew is selling, I'm sure it's great value and will serve well for lots of years.

If you really want a Low whistle anyway, I think Alba or Chieftain would be your best bet too. I have a Chieftain low D which I like and I've tried out several Alba's and they are all very nice.

Phil Hardy · Post by **Phil Hardy** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:26 am

Your troubles are over ,just send me your postal address and I'll send you over something nice.

Don't worry about money,just play it loads.

phil@kerrywhistles.com

Al the beast

mgPhiol.(Phil Hardy)

lixnaw · Post by **lixnaw** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:13 am

save up for a copeland low D it's as loud as a flute, have a listen http://www.greylarsen.com/store/tinwhistles_samples.php

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:21 am

lixnaw wrote:save up for a copeland low D it's as loud as a flute, have a listen http://www.greylarsen.com/store/tinwhistles_samples.php

No it isn't, at least not to my ears. Copelands are deceptive; they sound louder than they really are because they have such tonal richness, ditto Overtons. But just play one for a bit and then pick up and play a D flute and you'll hear a clear increase in volume, at least you will if you can fill the flute.

lixnaw · Post by **lixnaw** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:31 am

Wombat wrote:
lixnaw wrote:save up for a copeland low D it's as loud as a flute, have a listen http://www.greylarsen.com/store/tinwhistles_samples.php
No it isn't, at least not to my ears. Copelands are deceptive; they sound louder than they really are because they have such tonal richness, ditto Overtons. But just play one for a bit and then pick up and play a D flute and you'll hear a clear increase in volume, at least you will if you can fill the flute.

you could be right there. but imho they're the loudest whistles anyway.
the flute is much harder to learn, it don't suite me at all.

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:41 am

lixnaw wrote:
Wombat wrote:
lixnaw wrote:save up for a copeland low D it's as loud as a flute, have a listen http://www.greylarsen.com/store/tinwhistles_samples.php
No it isn't, at least not to my ears. Copelands are deceptive; they sound louder than they really are because they have such tonal richness, ditto Overtons. But just play one for a bit and then pick up and play a D flute and you'll hear a clear increase in volume, at least you will if you can fill the flute.
you could be right there. but imho they're the loudest whistles anyway.
the flute is much harder to learn, it don't suite me at all.

I used to believe that too until a group of people here persuaded me that it was an illusion. I had Overton and Copleland low Gs handy so I just played them one after the other. The Copeland seemed to be just a little louder but there wasn't much in it.

Henke · Post by **Henke** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:47 am

Anyway, seems the problem is solved now that Phil Hardy is such an unbelievably nice chapp. I'm positive Danner won't go wrong with the Chieftain whistle. I like mine much better than probably all other low whistles I've tried out, including Overton.

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