George Lucas

Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:54 am

He's worked Hayden Christensen into the final scene in Return of the Jedi (so now "young" Anakin appears in ghost form next to Yoda and Obi-Wan). Ugh.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/ ... ges02.html

izzarina · Post by **izzarina** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:53 am

Jens_Hoppe wrote:He's worked Hayden Christensen into the final scene in Return of the Jedi (so now "young" Anakin appears in ghost form next to Yoda and Obi-Wan). Ugh.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/ ... ges02.html

I don't get this....what on earth was Lucas thinking? Why isn't Obi Wan young too (goodness knows he's way better looking when he is!

)? That doesn't make sense.
On another note, I think that if Lucas was going to change so darn much anyway, he should have put in a scene where some alien types were playing a session with some guy playing a killer whistle solo...

Heather

Kuranes · Post by **Kuranes** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:57 am

Brian Lee · Post by **Brian Lee** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:46 am

And people had the audacity to mock Lord of the Rings! LOL

:roll:

tuaz · Post by **tuaz** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:49 am

izzarina wrote:
Jens_Hoppe wrote:He's worked Hayden Christensen into the final scene in Return of the Jedi (so now "young" Anakin appears in ghost form next to Yoda and Obi-Wan). Ugh.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/ ... ges02.html
I don't get this....what on earth was Lucas thinking? Why isn't Obi Wan young too (goodness knows he's way better looking when he is! )? That doesn't make sense.
On another note, I think that if Lucas was going to change so darn much anyway, he should have put in a scene where some alien types were playing a session with some guy playing a killer whistle solo...

Heather

He lost me as a fan long ago when his re-release of the the movie version of Jedi had a really awful synth-y new agey soundtrack at the end (when the Ewoks and our heroes were celebrating the victory) instead of the Ewok's happy tribal music. The ewoks may have been too cute for some people, but the original music was them. And its liveliness and exuberance was appropriate for the happy ending and celebratory partying going on.

The colourless and forgettable "tune" that replaced it - I still can't understand why he did it. What purpose did it serve? It wasn't uplifting at all, nor did it stir the heart or end the original trilogy on a high. It didn't even have anything to do with forcing the original trilogy to fit into the rewritten backstory.

He was just meddling for meddling's sake, IMO.

Post by **Dale** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:47 pm

I think what made Star Wars Episodes I & II so endlessly fascinating was the decision to make the plots pivot on trade and taxation issues. That gets me everytime. He had me at "Hello." In fact, I was hoping he would have tweaked the DVD versions of the original movies to somehow include more stuff on trade and taxation issues. He probably could re-cut Indiana Jones to at least include some kind of subplot about trade and taxation.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:53 pm

perhaps he had an agenda which is lost on all but the ghosts of the patriots at the Boston Tea Party.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:10 pm

I think he has simply lost touch or maybe he has been consulting with focus groups composed of small children for plot ideas for these new ones. I don't know but it's really embarassing what has been done to this once brilliant franchise. As to why he would go back and feck with the originals the way he has... Who the feck knows.

NZ_Chris · Post by **NZ_Chris** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:26 am

A tricky and broad question. But ultimately, I'd have to say that he wasn't that stellar a director in the first place and the years have not been kind. The original movie was an ok movie, but really that's all. What really made that movie was that it was new in it's direction and it showed off some really cool (for its time) special effects. I watched it again for the first time in a long time recently and found myself constantly wanting to slap Luke for being a whiney little git ...

The Empire Strikes Back (IMO the only really good movie of the 5 so far) was directed by someone other than GL which is probably why it rates as the best of the bunch. Once he got his butt back into the Directors Chair the series began its downhill slide. Little fuzzy teddy bears, a robot built by the father that is inherited by the son (although the robot conveniently forgets to mention that to the son) Worst of the lot, it looks a lot like Anakin is going to go over to the dark side in an act of teen rebellion

Despite all of the above, I'm sure I'll go see the last one in the cinemas once anyway...

AaronMalcomb · Post by **AaronMalcomb** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:31 pm

He's old , too entrenched in the business, and somehow got the silly notion he could come up with his own ideas. Why couldn't he just keep borrowing ideas from Akira Kurosawa, Sergio Leone, Tolkien and mythology? Do they make Viagra for the imagination?

Is Gary Kurtz still in the business? I believe he was key to the success of the original trilogy.

Cheers,
Aaron

Post by **Dale** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:49 pm

American Graffitti II. Directed by George Lucas.

All the loveable kids in American Graffitti grow up and become incruciatingly dull tax attorneys and trade specialists.

Walden · Post by **Walden** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:57 pm

AaronMalcomb wrote:Why couldn't he just keep borrowing ideas from Akira Kurosawa, Sergio Leone, Tolkien and mythology?

And set it all in Star Trek world, which itself was a minor reworking of Gunsmoke. The big difference was that Doc was the man of educated reason, when arguing with Festus, whereas he was the old country boy when arguing with Spock. But Star Trek did for space science fiction what Gunsmoke did for westerns, it showed the setting is secondary to exploring what-ifs, and Star Wars took that, and went "what if, instead of a space western, we had a space Japanese fairy tale?"

dfernandez77 · Post by **dfernandez77** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:45 pm

DaleWisely wrote:Q: What's George Lucas's problem?

Discuss.

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Snuh · Post by **Snuh** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:11 am

DaleWisely wrote:American Graffitti II. Directed by George Lucas.

All the loveable kids in American Graffitti grow up and become incruciatingly dull tax attorneys and trade specialists.

My fiancee informs me that there is an actual American Graffitti II. Most of it centers around the war. He must have done it before the brilliant notion of tax and trade oriented plots struck him.

She says it awful. (surprise, surprise)

A.J.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:06 pm

NZ_Chris wrote: I watched it again for the first time in a long time recently and found myself constantly wanting to slap Luke for being a whiney little git ...

Funny...I had the same reaction. In fact, when it was re-released several years ago, a chuckle rippled through the whole theater when Luke's uncle asked him to do a chore and Luke responded, "Awww, I was going to go blast [snarfblats...or whatever creature he mentioned.]"

wait...I remember...it was "wamp-rats"...right?

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