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forget or forgot

"I forgot"
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"I forget"
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Walden wrote:
BrassBlower wrote:And then you have the case of fellow Arky and former St. Louis Cardinals radio announcer Dizzy Dean:

"He slud into second base!" :lol:
That is odd. Standard American English would be, "He slud on in to second base!"
An let us not forget, "He slud up on in there" :o
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I forgot would refer to a single past instance; I forget might imply that one is still searching one's memory banks with some vague hope of recollection, as in, Hm, let me see, I forget. Or tha latter could refer to an ongoing or repetitive condition. Respectfully submitted for your consideration, lest we forget.

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Post by amar »

the only time I say "forget" is if the verb describes a general situation:
I always forget to zipp-up after pissing.
I usually forget my manners after 7 pints.
Tomorrow I will forget to clean up my flat.

But, if someone asks me something and I answer I forget to it, it would sound wrong to me, because the mere fact that I tried to remember had taken place in the past, therefore forget would have to be in the past too, as in, you got it: forgot.
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Post by Nanohedron »

Like PhilO and others, I'll use "forget" in the sense of an ongoing state that may be resolved. Arguably needless information when you get down to it, but we talk to ourselves as well when we talk to others. :wink:
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Re: OT: question on language

Post by Lorenzo »

amar wrote:What do you say?
I've forgotten, but I'm for get'n it right.
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:-?
An old friend of mine once told me that he gave up the booze when he forgot what it was that he was trying to forget.
Mmmm....,

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AmarJi,
Like Philo and Avanturia and others have told you,
its to do with tense.
"Forgot" is past tense declension;
"Forget" is a present tense declension
and
"Will forget" is a future tense declension
of the verb "TO FORGET".
Some of your usages of the verb
are just grammatically INCORRECT.

However that does not mean you shouldn't keep on
speaking the way you are.
It may suited your personality.
qui jure suo utitur neminem laedit
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Post by amar »

eh...? my personality is incorrect???
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Post by Stu H »

Forgot should only be used when reffering to an event in the past, as it is the past tense of the verb forget.

To say I forget, is a general statment which could refer to events in the past, the present and the future:

Do you remember? No, I forget.



So the answer to the question: 'do you know where the car keys are?'

could be either

A) 'No, I have forgotten' (specific to that event)

B) 'No, I forget' (a general statment)


or

C) Yes, don't you (more likley)
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Post by Stu H »

Oh BTW Amar congratulations - I see you've recently cracked 1,000
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Post by amar »

thanks StuH, you see, I've got too much time on me hands...
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amar wrote:thanks StuH, you see, I've got too much time on me hands...
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Post by starman »

Walden wrote:It seems to me that the older generation, especially (speaking of my own kinsmen), use what we usually think of as present tense words for the past in some cases, though, as Avanutria suggests, I think it's true that in the case of forget/forgot it tends to vary with context.

Among my older relatives:

run = run or ran
eat = eat, ate, or eaten (possibly a legitimate archaic usage)
give = give, gave, or given
Lay off the older generation Walden or this will be something not soon forgotten! :wink:

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Post by avanutria »

What I find interesting are the words gotten and forgotten.

Both are used here in American English, but as I understand it, gotten has disappeared from general usage in British English.
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