Upcoming essay on C-natural

Post by **Dale** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:08 pm

I'm writing a piece for the next newsletter on playing C-natural--alternate fingerings, the sensitivity to the pitch of this note to wind pressure, etc. If anyone wants to contribute ideas, here's the place.

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The Chiff & Fipple
C-Natural
Matrix of Possibilities
(Not Including Half-Holing)

IDAwHOa · Post by **IDAwHOa** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:42 pm

I have had two whistles recently that played Cnat as

0XXXX0

Both were basically prototypes, but still played this fingering. Quite nice for Cnat-D-Cnat sequences, but really makes you think about it when you are used to 0XX000.

chas · Post by **chas** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:44 pm

You left out three very important ones:

OXX XOX -- best Cnat on several inexpensive whistles.

OXX XXO -- best on Harper alto whistles, Weltmeister (I'll admit I own one) and some Shaws, Hoovers and Sindts

OXO XXX -- best on many flutes

avanutria · Post by **avanutria** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:50 pm

OXXXOX is critical on nearly every laughing whistle I've ever played. My criteria for a great nonlaughing whistle includes being able to use both OXXXOX and OXXOOO for cnat. My best hybrid whistles do this well.

ChrisLaughlin · Post by **ChrisLaughlin** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:52 pm

Yes, but how do you play a C natural on a Mac?

IDAwHOa · Post by **IDAwHOa** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:21 pm

ChrisLaughlin wrote:Yes, but how do you play a C natural on a Mac?

And your point is, Chris? You trying to start something here?

E = Fb · Post by **E = Fb** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:27 pm

For tunes where C natural is critical (eg: O'Carolan's stuff or where it occurs in the upper octave) I have a special C natural whistle that I pull out. I've taped it so that C Nat is spot on. C sharp is very flat as a result of this tweak, but I don't use this whistle for those tunes.
The way to do this is to apply tape to the high side (towards the mouthpiece) of the first hole (C# on a D whistle). I've taped about 1/3rd of the hole but it varies from whislte to whistle. Adjust the tape so that you get a good C natural using OXX-OOO without having to decrease your breathe volume.
I especially use this whistle for Carolan's Quarrel With The Landlady, where there's a C nat in upper (3rd) octave. It's just right using OXX-XX0.
Someone told me that Mary Bergin does this for tunes in A. She has whistle(s) tweaked to give a good G#. Maybe the hole is opened up, I don't know the details.

TM

chas · Post by **chas** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:55 pm

ChrisLaughlin wrote:Yes, but how do you play a C natural on a Mac?

You pull up something like Transcribe or TunerE and hit the C. It works on all macs, not just the ones with special "sound cards."

Post by **Dale** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:38 pm

Thanks

The Chiff & Fipple
C-Natural
Matrix of Possible Fingerings

Director's Edition

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emmline · Post by **emmline** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:43 pm

ChrisLaughlin wrote:Yes, but how do you play a C natural on a Mac?

Not hard at all. But depending on your body weight, may or may not do much good for the Mac.

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:59 pm

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JohnPalmer · Post by **JohnPalmer** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:12 pm

Dale, I can't believe you left out ALL the B# fingerings!

JohnPalmer · Post by **JohnPalmer** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:25 pm

vomitbunny · Post by **vomitbunny** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:31 pm

Ha ha ha ha! If someone wandered into this forum and didn't know what we were talking about these post would look pretty stupid.

IDAwHOa · Post by **IDAwHOa** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:06 pm

vomitbunny wrote:Ha ha ha ha! If someone wandered into this forum and didn't know what we were talking about these post would look pretty stupid.

Stupid, no. In love or like, yes.

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Now, you just stay away from me VB!!!!!