2 Whistling CDs

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:50 pm

I got yesterday 2 whistle CDs i ordered from Claddagh:

(1) Paddy Molloney / Sean Potts : Tin Whistles

What a fun CD. Recorded in 1973. Just whistle, with a little bodhran here and there. What did you think of that funky Julia Delaney? I'm not sure i like it, but what a blast!

(2) Mary Bergin : Feadóga Stáin

This is from 1979. I hear a lot of people consider this the finest whistling CD. I think it's very good, but maybe a little bit too perfect. There are no liner notes, so i don't know what kind of whistles she's playing, but from the sound, i'm guessing Burke. Does anybody know?

Of the 2, i like the Molloney/Potts one best, maybe because it's rougher. They seem to be playing Generations, and sometimes they have a hard time getting the 2 whistles to play in tune, but each man is a master and seems to be having a lot of fun. I also like it that there's no accompanyment.

Mary Bergin, as i said, maybe a little too perfect, but nobody can deny she's an amazing player.

Any other whistle CDs i should be listening to?

g

P.S.: we need something like Wooden Flute Obsession for the whistle. I suggest Pennywhistle Envy, to keep with the mental disease theme. I think i'll email Kevin Krell.

Tak_the_whistler · Post by **Tak_the_whistler** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:30 am

"Cosmic Drainpipe Temptations", recorded in 12th Oct. 2002, by

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Glauber, on the internet, nobody knows I'm actually a faithful re***der player.

NOT!

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"Unser Leben ist kein Traum, aber es soll und wird vielleicht einer werden." -- Novalis

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:57 am

glauber wrote:
(2) Mary Bergin : Feadóga Stáin

There are no liner notes, so i don't know what kind of whistles she's playing, but from the sound, i'm guessing Burke. Does anybody know?

It's my understanding that at this time she played only Generations.

Tak_the_whistler · Post by **Tak_the_whistler** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:13 am

I heard it was Sindt she's "recently" into. I'm not sure.

SteveK · Post by **SteveK** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:03 am

Wombat wrote:
glauber wrote:
(2) Mary Bergin : Feadóga Stáin

There are no liner notes, so i don't know what kind of whistles she's playing, but from the sound, i'm guessing Burke. Does anybody know?

It's my understanding that at this time she played only Generations.

I think it's only fairly recently that she's started using the Sindt. I don't think Burke was making whistles in 1979. There's been a huge increase in the number of whistle makers in recent years. There was much available in 1979 except Generation and Clarke.

Steve

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:08 am

Generations, heh? In this case, that album is really amazing.

See, who needs expensive whistles?

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:56 am

I agree--she's too perfect.

susnfx · Post by **susnfx** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:11 am

Why does the fact that she's playing Generations make the album more amazing? She would sound just as amazing if she was playing a Burke, an Overton, a Sindt, or anything else.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see the importance of the type of whistle a certain person plays. Mary Bergin will still be great on anything she plays and a beginner will sound like a beginner on whatever they're playing. It's the musician, not the whistle.

Susan

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:51 am

Susan,

I think i sound better when i play a Burke then when i play a Generation. This is probably another way to say i'm a beginner, then. In my limited experience, a Generation is much harder to control than a Burke. I'm picking on Burke and Generation because i own these 2 whistles, but i probably could have picked most any pairing of cheap and expensive whistle. Judging from your opinion, when i get to be really good, these distinctions will probably go away.

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:02 am

You can be quite sure that Mary Bergin was playing a batch of good Generations. Good Generations are good, very responsive whistles. I have an Eb that is close enough for me to be able to tell what a good one would be like and I haven't even tried the blue tack tweak yet, just done a little filing. There is just so much pointless confusion about this point. Really good Generations are great whistles .. they are not bad whistles. Bad Generations are stinkers. People who play well on Generations are not fighting against bad whistles, although they do need to adjust to them. The same is true of high-end whistles.

Even in the days when good Gens were easier to find they were still hard to spot and they still required tweaking. On both these points, and on Mary Bergin's ability to find good ones, see the Paddy Moloney interview on the main site.

kevin m. · Post by **kevin m.** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:17 pm

Re the 'good Generations' - I love those Gens. on the Molloney/Potts album cover-each looks as if it has about half a roll of clear 'Sellotape' holding the head in tuned position!

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:20 pm

Yeah, the mythical "good Generations", harder to find than compassionate conservatives (TM).

What other whistle CDs are available, that need to be heard?

skh · Post by **skh** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:22 pm

glauber wrote:Yeah, the mythical "good Generations"...

I've yet to see a bad one. (Send them to me, just send them to me!)

Sonja

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:26 pm

skh wrote:I've yet to see a bad one. (Send them to me, just send them to me!)

It's a pity i just fixed it (by beheading and installing a Hoover whitecap), but i had a truly horrible Generations D whistle, green head on brass body. That thing almost ended my whistling career before it began.

I also have a Bb that i wouldn't call good, but it's not horrible, and a F that's adequate (but has been tweaked). I'll probably tweak that Bb sometime soon to see if i can get rid of some of the raspiness.

kevin m. · Post by **kevin m.** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:35 pm

Glauber,you MUST hear Micho Russell-any of his albums are worth investing in,plus the 'Ireland's whistling ambassador' video is well worth a look.
Very,very individualistic playing,and a very different approach from the other albums discussed.I would say that his music,though on first listening sounds a lot 'rougher' than Bergin,Maloney or Potts,it is in fact very sophisticated.

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