Anyone else having worm problems?

slowair · Post by **slowair** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:41 pm

Norton has prevented about forty attempts to pass on a virus, both in and out today.

All different names to em.

Anyone else being bombarded lately?

Mike

spittin_in_the_wind · Post by **spittin_in_the_wind** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:44 pm

I think you take activated charcoal for that...

Seriously, one of my co-workers said she emailed herself from her home computer and our work computer rejected it as containing a virus. I thought that was odd, since it was an intentional email. But I'm no computer geek, so I'm sure there's a way for that to happen.

Robin

anniemcu · Post by **anniemcu** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:19 pm

Loads of them - wish they were as good for compost as they are for raising folks' bloodpressure!

Just think what the people who spend their time and energy coming up with these ingenious ways to disrupt and interfere with your daily life could accomplish with a sense of right-livlihood!

(sigh)

DCrom · Post by **DCrom** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:09 pm

anniemcu wrote:Loads of them - wish they were as good for compost as they are for raising folks' bloodpressure!

Just think what the people who spend their time and energy coming up with these ingenious ways to disrupt and interfere with your daily life could accomplish with a sense of right-livlihood!

(sigh)

I've lost count - probably over 50 in the last couple of days, mostly pretending to be Microsoft security patches (ha!).

Since I'm runing Linux with a textmode-only news reader, they aren't succeeding, but I'm getting really annoyed at the waste of bandwidth.

Lock 'em in a small room with a dozen enthusiastic beginning box and bodhran players, and maybe a deaf piper (on the GHB) playing lead.

selkie · Post by **selkie** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:45 pm

I almost wet myself laughing when I saw the subject. I had just spent 20 minutes trying to get a tasty chocolate flavoured worm pill down my sons cat! New pills and the cat we thought we'd have trouble with just scoffed the pill and wanted more but BT had to be towel wrapped and force fed.

jluckett · Post by **jluckett** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:59 pm

Norton caught two worm infested emails last night. Like DCrom, both were allegedly from Microsoft.

The first one was supposed to contain a patch for Internet Explorer, and the second had a subject line to the effect that there was an undeliverable message.

DCrom, I like your idea...

DCrom wrote: Lock 'em in a small room with a dozen enthusiastic beginning box and bodhran players, and maybe a deaf piper (on the GHB) playing lead.

Can we add a couple of whistlers with Generation high G whistles to the mix?

- Jan

fancypiper · Post by **fancypiper** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:32 pm

Drop that insecure operating system. Try out Linux.

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LWN distro list
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Royce · Post by **Royce** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:09 am

fancypiper wrote:Drop that insecure operating system. Try out Linux.

You sound like my son. It's not as easy as it sounds.

Royce

fancypiper · Post by **fancypiper** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:20 am

Hmm.. from the ancient bagpipes mailing list, I recall that you have an idiot son. Now, my idiot son insists on running only the Microsoft operating systems (now experiencing the great hardware support where his sound card, recording software and the Microsoft Sidewinder joystick is no longer supported.

My younger son in the US Air Force is at least is smart enough to serve the internet to his Windows box that he plays games on, even though the Air Force itsself is stupid enough to be taken down by the Windows crappy security. IIRC, the Langley AFB site at least went down, but I haven't bothered to check Netcraft to look for others.

The KNOPPIX Linux Live CD is available real cheap at the cheap CD sites I posted or free for the download at several places, assuming a windows user can burn an ISO file to CD (they have an amazingly hard time doing that). Pop it in, boot it up and see how hard it is for yourself.

I didn't think you were from Missouri....

EricWingler · Post by **EricWingler** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:18 pm

I've received about 300 of these worm infested e-mails in the last two days. Evidently, someone pressed the install button contained in the message. The worm has just been detected at McAfee (9/18). It's called W32/Swen[some other stuff here]. It would have been nice if the worm had used the same subject line on all of its messages. Then it would be easy to filter.

So, would boiling in oil be an appropriate punishment for the person who wrote this worm?

serpent · Post by **serpent** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:15 pm

fancypiper wrote:Drop that insecure operating system. Try out Linux.

# Linux Distribution links:
A Beginner's Guide to Choosing a Linux Distribution
Reasons to Choose or Not Choose Linux

# Cheap CDs
Discount Linux CDs
Linux Central
Cheapbytes
TuxCDs
ComputerHelperGu
Cheap
Os Heaven

(expunged URLs and silly penguin thingy)

Nuts. No, crap. The first system I ever got a virus or worm on was a Linux server. While it is true that there are not as many virus-writing imbeciles out there working on Linux or Mac (the _other_ supposedly worm-and-virus-free OS) as on MicroSloth, there are still plenty. And Linux will waste just as much of your time screwing around with stuff that doesn't work right, as any MicroSloth release. Plus, you have to be a computer geek, or know one, to get it installed correctly in the first place. Try getting some new high-end video card to work, for example...
serpent

fancypiper · Post by **fancypiper** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:52 pm

serpent wrote:Nuts. No, crap. The first system I ever got a virus or worm on was a Linux server.

Wow! You are the first person I have ever heard (read on a bbs) say that that had actually run Linux. How in the world did you manage to infect the server?

Are you absolutely sure that it wasn't a Microsoft OS that was infected rather than the Linux box?

Virus Writing HOWTO reference: Should I get anti-virus software for my Linux box?

I haven't managed to get either Windows 98 SE or Windows 2000 Pro to work correctly on my computer and Linux just purrs along and everything works except for a few sites with malformed Microsoft html code and sites with shockwave. As far as getting things working, I find Linux much better as I have to go searching for some stupid driver. Plus, it comes with tons of software I don't need to buy.

Why is there no driver for the Microsoft Sidewinder joystick in Windows 2000 Pro, Microsoft? Hmm?

Your term "high end video card" sounds as if you may need to play games on your computer, but you may have the troubles I experienced to play your games if you upgrade your Microsoft OS. Again, I point to the Knoppix Live CD if you wish to see if your hardware is supported.

serpent · Post by **serpent** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:15 am

fancypiper wrote:
serpent wrote:Nuts. No, crap. The first system I ever got a virus or worm on was a Linux server.
Wow! You are the first person I have ever heard (read on a bbs) say that that had actually run Linux. How in the world did you manage to infect the server?

Are you absolutely sure that it wasn't a Microsoft OS that was infected rather than the Linux box?

Virus Writing HOWTO reference: Should I get anti-virus software for my Linux box?

It was a Red Hat Linux 5.0 server. It was infected with a worm that I forget the name of, (possibly the "ramen worm") that also attacked the (Apache 1.x) webserver and changed all the homepages to some gobbledygook. It was easy to fix, but it was annoying to me and my clients, some of whom went with my server because it wasn't Microsoft.

I have gone back to MS Windows 2000 Professional, and the Sun iPlanet webserver (now Sun One Application Server), with McAfee version 7. I have had precisely zero problems with virii or worms in over a year.

The MicroSloth scripting worms are propagated due to lack of caution on the part of users who should get a clue about opening attachments from unknown senders, and who should become aware, somehow, that Microsoft does not send out patches via email. The false sense of security given by such services as A-Hole-L does not help. Education is the answer.

Virus writers should be exposed to West Nile Virus and left to die somewhere in the mountains of northern Iraq, dressed as Al Queda. What a waste of human flesh...

serpent

fancypiper · Post by **fancypiper** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:23 am

Do you still do any Linux work? If so, how do your Linux clients compared to your Windows clients feel about their servers security after the last 4 years os experiences with each system?

serpent · Post by **serpent** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:26 am

fancypiper wrote:Do you still do any Linux work? If so, how do your Linux clients compared to your Windows clients feel about their servers security after the last 4 years os experiences with each system?

I only keep Linux around as a toy now. My local test server is Windoze 2000 Professional running SunOne and JDK 1.4.1, and it hasn't ever had a virus or worm. I'm no longer in the hosting business - too much of a pain. Making whistles is much more fun.

serpent

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