Artists vs. Green Linnet - Buy from GL? Read this.

NicksterNM · Post by **NicksterNM** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:22 am

Seems to me this is a question of how a contract is written. If a player owns the copyrirght to a song or perfomance then he/she shuould get compensation, unless it is written into a contract. Just because somebody is a "Folk" artist does not mean they can ignore the small print. If the compilation non-compensation thing is illegal, take 'em to court.

Speaking of Green Linet, so there I was on the Isle of Skye looking looking for authentic celtic music and pick up a GL tape to discover it was produced by a company from the hot bed of celtic sound, Danbury CT, the city where I work. DANBURY CT!?? Small world I guess.

Nick

rossmpfc13 · Post by **rossmpfc13** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:26 am

Hey look,
Don't go jumping down GL's throat before you know all of the details. Remember, that information can't be 100% accurate, considering that Eileen Ivers does not use Green Linnet anymore. Remember that it says that she was one of the people taking legal action, well, she uses a fancy Sony label now. Proving that most or NONE of that information isn't necessarily true.

Hope this helps,
Ross

Tyghress · Post by **Tyghress** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:29 am

NicksterNM wrote: Danbury CT, the city where I work. DANBURY CT!?? Small world I guess.

Nick

Nick, did I know that you were in CT? (getting old and losing memory....)

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:36 am

There is the option of writing to GL,
expressing concern about the reports,
and saying that you believe an increasing number
of their customers are following this
issue with interest, and would like
to see it resolved amicably. Best not to mention
this board. One doesnt' have to express
a judgement in the message. e mail may
be an option. This sort of communication
tends to capture a company's attention, I think.

Just not buying won't help much. Best

msheldon · Post by **msheldon** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:22 am

rossmpfc13 wrote:Hey look,
Don't go jumping down GL's throat before you know all of the details. Remember, that information can't be 100% accurate, considering that Eileen Ivers does not use Green Linnet anymore. Remember that it says that she was one of the people taking legal action, well, she uses a fancy Sony label now. Proving that most or NONE of that information isn't necessarily true.

How do you figure?

Just because she's not currently with them does not mean that she may not have legal action pending against them for past issues.

By your logic, if my bank mishandles my accounts, and I switch banks, I can no longer hold them accountable for the lost funds.

I'd say there's no proof here, one way or the other. The other posts are based on rumor or second/third-hand statements, whereas yours is based on an illogical assumption.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:10 pm

Makes one glad to be an amateur.
Imagine the trouble I might have had
if I'd had talent!

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:21 pm

kkrell wrote:The artists who appear on the "Wooden Flute Obsession" compilation CDs do appear with their permission and approval of the track selection.

Kevin, you've done an incredible job with this compilation.

BrassBlower · Post by **BrassBlower** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:21 pm

jim stone wrote:Makes one glad to be an amateur.
Imagine the trouble I might have had
if I'd had talent!

Of course, we all know that only signed acts have talent, and only talented acts get signed!

Greetings from another proud amateur.

BB

chas · Post by **chas** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:30 pm

If one decides not to buy from any record label that screws its artists, one would pretty much never buy any music except from artists who have their own labels.

kkrell · Post by **kkrell** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:42 pm

glauber wrote:
kkrell wrote:The artists who appear on the "Wooden Flute Obsession" compilation CDs do appear with their permission and approval of the track selection.
Kevin, you've done an incredible job with this compilation.

Thanks glauber. From what's coming in, I think the 2nd compilation may be better.

Kevin Krell

Post by **Nanohedron** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:42 pm

chas wrote:If one decides not to buy from any record label that screws its artists, one would pretty much never buy any music except from artists who have their own labels.

Good point, Chas...

Azalin · Post by **Azalin** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:53 pm

chas wrote:If one decides not to buy from any record label that screws its artists, one would pretty much never buy any music except from artists who have their own labels.

Buying CDs is like drinking water, we don't have much choice about it, don't we? Let's call it a requirement to survival...

susnfx · Post by **susnfx** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:39 pm

Maybe all record companies do cheat their musicians. Maybe this has been going on for a long time - from what I've heard, it has been. But that doesn't make it all right for it to continue. I'm a letter writer, complainer, "let me speak to the manager" type of person who believes the only way things get changed is if people speak up. We have power as consumers and if all each of us can do is write an email to Green Linnet to express concern about the press releases in the Irish Echo, perhaps something will change. It might not be anything you and I can see, but maybe something good will come from it. I honestly don't know if it would help or hurt the musicians who believe they're being cheated by Green Linnet to not purchase CDs. But if there's a chance we could do a little something, isn't it worth finding out?

I've sent emails to some hopefully informed folks trying to find out if there's anything consumers can do in a case like this - to let Green Linnet know that part of what we're doing when we purchase a CD is showing appreciation for the artists' talent and hard work in a monetary way and we certainly assume they receive the financial rewards they've worked so hard to gain.

Well, that's my rant for the day.
Susan

Azalin · Post by **Azalin** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:47 pm

Susan, I hope your perceived my irony in my previous comment, it seems that people are just aware of their own well being, and that caring about others or about a cause is just too much pain, it's much more easier not to look too far around and walk on our own little path. Anyway, thanks for bringing this whole thing up.

FJohnSharp · Post by **FJohnSharp** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:18 pm

So, if one wants to buy 'Redwood' that is not a GL product, is there a way to get a foreign version?