Flute to get started with

[Luck Adversa]

The Folk Flute, or a Delrin flute like Forbes, Copley, Sweet, or Somers (good instruments all) will be good instruments to learn on, and they'll be something you can play for decades.

What would you suggest among the ones you listed?

You don't say where you're living (other than in a house which can get very hot in summer), but another thing to consider is that those makers are all located in America. So if you're based on the other side of the Atlantic/Pacific, P&P and duties can raise the costs quite a bit.

Which is the quieter one?

Haven't played one myself, but the Dixon three part flute is generally considered a fair flute which plays rather quiet. Also the price is certainly reasonable.

You are right, i apologize for that.
I currently live in Milan (Italy) and summer with no air conditioning here is really too hot.
I was asking about the loudness just to have an idea. Since houses here don't have thick walls neighbours can hear you anyway so loud or not it doesn't really make much difference.
All of these flutes cost around 400 euro (shipping included). Which is good for me.

[megapop]

Ah okay, I see. Don't underestimate the import duties though... just saying.

[Casey Burns]

40-45C inside your house is fine. The difference is that a car will heat up very quickly once the air conditioning is turned off. This is why it is safe to leave your pet dog at home locked up but deadly for the pet dog to leave it in a car on a hot day. Blackwood comes from the eastern part of Africa where the temps frequently get that high.

[Luck Adversa]

40-45C inside your house is fine. The difference is that a car will heat up very quickly once the air conditioning is turned off. This is why it is safe to leave your pet dog at home locked up but deadly for the pet dog to leave it in a car on a hot day. Blackwood comes from the eastern part of Africa where the temps frequently get that high.

I guess it's different for trees and worked wood.
What's the best way to place it while i don't play?

[tin tin]

After playing, swab out the flute (to remove excess moisture) and store it in its case. Put it on a shelf or in a drawer. They're really not very fragile.

[Luck Adversa]

My god..i'll end up buying too many flutes...
Anyway thank you all for your answers guys, they really helped me.
I'll think about it a little bit more and then i'll decide.
I didn't think too much about the cilindrical bore part so at this point i'll probably go for a conical bore, still have to decide which one.
Since both delrin and wood (in this case Casey Burns) makers are in the usa shipping for any kind of repair will be a bit expensive.
At the moment i'm more for a delrin flute and after summer a wooden one. (i will probably move in january so it's going to be fine for next year and i will not be so scared)
I feel more relaxed now

[Peter Duggan]

Since both delrin and wood (in this case Casey Burns) makers are in the usa shipping for any kind of repair will be a bit expensive.

There are good makers of both at reasonable prices in Europe... just depends who/what you want! Francois Baubet and Vincenzo Di Mauro at least in Delrin, plus M&E in whatever polymer they're using, and I'm sure you'll get further suggestions here for both wood and Delrin/polymer.

(I went transatlantic for Dave Copley in both Delrin and wood, but had unusual requirements and a very positive response from Dave on working with me on them. And, yes, it can be awkward/expensive when you have to send things back and forth, but it's been totally worth it for me!)

[Jayhawk]

Francois Baubet's flutes are outstanding. I have a delrin 5 key. Great guy to work with, too.

[Luck Adversa]

Francois Baubet's flutes are outstanding. I have a delrin 5 key. Great guy to work with, too.

What's the price of it?

Can someone explain me what's the difference between the 2 option Forbes gives about the cork?
Screw-adjustable cap/cork (instead of one-piece, combined cap/cork)

[Jayhawk]

Here's Francois' website: http://www.francoisbaubet.com/

You have to email him for a price list, but his prices are reasonable and he'll customize whatever you want. I have wide rings, 5 keys, and he made the dandy end cap from some left over fake ivory he had at no extra cost. He's just great to work with...and he'll do wood or delrin - your choice. If you're going to worry about wood, just go with delrin. If you love wood, just go with wood. I'm a wood worrier, have had several very nice antique American flute (cocus), antique German, and a modern rosewood flute as well...I stressed about all of them. Delrin helps me relax, so it's worth it to me.

Here are a couple of pics of Francois' work:

[kkrell]

Francois Baubet's flutes are outstanding. I have a delrin 5 key. Great guy to work with, too.

What's the price of it?

His site says: "Drop me an email for price and details : fluteorder@gmail.com "

Can someone explain me what's the difference between the 2 option Forbes gives about the cork?
Screw-adjustable cap/cork (instead of one-piece, combined cap/cork)

Typical caps are just removable, and you can use a dowel to push the cork from either side to change its position.
Screw-adjusters have you turn the cap to move the head cork in/out along a threaded rod, as in most modern Boehm flutes.

[Luck Adversa]

Francois Baubet's flutes are outstanding. I have a delrin 5 key. Great guy to work with, too.

What's the price of it?

His site says: "Drop me an email for price and details : fluteorder@gmail.com "

Can someone explain me what's the difference between the 2 option Forbes gives about the cork?
Screw-adjustable cap/cork (instead of one-piece, combined cap/cork)

Typical caps are just removable, and you can use a dowel to push the cork from either side to change its position.
Screw-adjusters have you turn the cap to move the head cork in/out along a threaded rod, as in most modern Boehm flutes.

I see, thanks for the answers.
I sent him an e -mail to know price list

[jemtheflute]

I really wouldn't worry about getting a "quiet" flute. It is very easy to play any flute very quietly. It's rather harder to play one loud consistently and well, so having an instrument which doesn't want to go loud is an unhelpful hindrance to learning. Working at playing quietly is very good for embouchure and breath control and will set you up well for the occasions when you are at liberty to play at full blast. That said, no flute is particularly loud by comparison with most other instruments, save that the upper registers are more piercing (even played gently!), but you won't be going there much as a beginner.

[benhall.1]

I really wouldn't worry about getting a "quiet" flute. It is very easy to play any flute very quietly. It's rather harder to play one loud consistently and well, so having an instrument which doesn't want to go loud is an unhelpful hindrance to learning. Working at playing quietly is very good for embouchure and breath control and will set you up well for the occasions when you are at liberty to play at full blast. That said, no flute is particularly loud by comparison with most other instruments, save that the upper registers are more piercing (even played gently!), but you won't be going there much as a beginner.

You're loud enough yourself, and you and others can certainly hold your own in almost any session situation.

[UkesNeedLoveToo]

For the record, the inside of a car gets MUCH hotter than your living quarters probably ever will. Upwards of 130+ Fahrenheit depending on how long it's in the sun and the outside temp.