New age celtic bands

[Peter Duggan]

Genius!

What?

That's going to leave a bruise Pat! Great stuff.

Misguided puerile doggerel.

Not impressed at all!

[tompipes]

Would it be possible to name some bands who typify this type of music?

Probably all of them in varying degrees.

Misguided puerile doggerel.

I thought it was clever and funny doggerel.

Where are all the sense of humours gone?

Tommy

[Cathy Wilde]

So I turns to McNamara and I asks what do you think
he said this kind of music it would drive a man to drink

Which would be exactly why this music is so popular with bar owners. BTW, the link below is rather awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4fLVzEJLks

[MTGuru]

Misguided puerile doggerel.

On behalf of wayward, youthful dogs everywhere, I resemble that remark!

[oleorezinator]

Would it be possible to name some bands who typify this type of music?

Probably all of them in varying degrees.

Misguided puerile doggerel.

I thought it was clever and funny doggerel.

Where are all the sense of humours gone?

Tommy

Gone? Theres a lot of that going around lately.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97644

[Peter Duggan]

Gone? Theres a lot of that going around lately.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97644

If that's another dig at me re. the Cathal McConnell 'joke' you won't share, better just drop it!

[tompipes]

You'll have to tell the joke now

[oleorezinator]

You'll have to tell the joke now

The problem is that I have told the joke.

[oleorezinator]

Gone? Theres a lot of that going around lately.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97644

If that's another dig at me re. the Cathal McConnell 'joke' you won't share, better just drop it!

[DMQuinn]

Misguided puerile doggerel.

Not impressed at all!

Misguided? I don't know: it seems to follow a long and well established tradition.

The question is: How much of that doggerel’s innuendo?

[rorybbellows]

In a way I just see the song as a lament to change and as you get older change is harder to accept. The words could only been written by somebody like Pat Sky that lived in a tradition that has suddenly gone through a lot of changes, I think its unfair to criticize him for that. It like all songs ,if you can relate to the sentiment in the song you will probably enjoy it.

RORY

[bensdad]

How much of that doggerel’s innuendo?
The one with the waggle detail?

[benhall.1]

How much of that doggerel’s innuendo?
The one with the waggle detail?

I do hope that doggerel's not for sale.

[mke_mick]

In a way I just see the song as a lament to change and as you get older change is harder to accept. The words could only been written by somebody like Pat Sky that lived in a tradition that has suddenly gone through a lot of changes, I think its unfair to criticize him for that. It like all songs ,if you can relate to the sentiment in the song you will probably enjoy it.

Pat can speak for himself, of course, but it seems to me that the lament isn't so much about the very fact of change, but the particular type of change that the "Celtic entertainment" phenomenom represents.

Traditional Irish music is compelling to many of us precisely because so much change is built into it: variation, swing feel or not, regional and personal styles, improvisation, and even the continued introduction of new tunes (some with actual, known composers!) into the repertoire. To most of us, that kind of change is just peachy.

But reactions vary widely to changes that appear to "dilute" the culture, e.g., from something specifically Irish or Scottish in origin or idiom, to something more generic (i.e., "Celtic" meaning "Celtic-themed" rather than specifically Irish or Scottish, Galician, Welsh, etc.). Or to changes that seem to "change the tradition" in wildy anachronistic ways that, thirty years down the road, might sound cheesy and dated (e.g., funky bass lines or washes of synthesizer chords).

Nowadays I don't find pan-Celtic-ism or New Age-iness to be terribly compelling (though the first CD I ever owned with Gaelic on it was an Enya CD I bought in college and enjoyed, and I'm man enough to admit it). I grudgingly admit that it probably even leads a certain percentage of listeners to the "pure(r) stuff." (Would I have discovered Sonny Rollins had I not first heard Maynard Ferguson playing his music two octaves too high and 100 BPM too fast? Maybe, but not as early as I did. Same deal.)

But even if it doesn't, so what? Nothing Enya does prevents traditionalists from sticking to the straight bog music. And nothing that Mr. Sky puts into a teasing song should prevent anyone from enjoying Enya (or whomever).

Regards to all regardless of musical taste/impulses/income,
Mick

[tompipes]

Very well put Mick.

I heard it said the "Irish music was ruined by the that dammed Sligo reel"


Horses for courses. Or dogs.

Tommy