Rudall & Rose 2000 series on Ebay

[Steampacket]

There's a nice looking Rudall & Rose on E-bay just now, Buy-it-now price 5.5995 USD
Serial# 2xxx. No.15, Piazza, Covent Garden, London
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rudall-Rose-Coc ... item3a7564
Item number: 251077613058

[MTGuru]

This flute is listed here on the Chiffboard by the seller.

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[LorenzoFlute]

Ah, large hole Rudall, if the keys are silver it's my dream flute. One day, one day...

[dunnp]

I was just thinking the same thing, what lovely large holes you have, Rudall.

[Sillydill]

I've got a splendid idea!

We should start a Flute Lottery!

Each person could buy a ticket for $100 and the lucky one wins the R&R.

We could do this each time a delectable R&R turns up.

Just send your money to me and I'll let you know when I (I mean whoever wins).

[RudallRose]

i tried that once....or at least suggested it.....and got lambasted (the lottery, that is....not keeping the funds as you whimsically suggest)

frankly, as a seller in this economic climate, i think it's a fine idea.....but woes to the rest.

[RudallRose]

the photo is kind enough to show it as 2883 (why not just *say* it in the listing or online? quit with the 2xxx series nonsense -- and truth be told, there's an enormous difference between the 2100 and the 2900 flutes.)

also shows 2 offers......and if indications of previous "offers" on other available flutes are true, they're likely for the ridiculous prices of $3,000 or some stupidity. If the man wants $6k for this Rudall, then that's the price.

people.....get real! A bad economy means you don't have the money to even make an offer.
Bad economy doesn't mean the price goes down....unless the seller is hard up for cash.
And even then, quit taking advantage! Pay the fair price. Quit watching American Pickers or Pawn Stars!

Car sales went down, but I don't recall that the prices plummeted.
They did for houses, but of course they were overvalued.

When my keyed Olwell showed up, I don't recall being able to say to Pat: "hey, the economy sucks, so cut the price." Yeah, right.

You want a bargain? hit the streets and look for it yourself. How do you think the rest of us locate them?

[LorenzoFlute]

Will you show me the streets you're talking about David?

[kmag]

I agree with David on this. A slight decrease for a quick sale is a far cry from half price. I feel it wrong to try and take advantage of another person's bad situation if it is a forced sale and wrong to drive down the price just because we are in bad times. I think it degrades the flute as well as the people involved to make ridiculous offers. Please don't talk to me about market forces, we are not talking about commodities here and to try to get something for nothing is greedy in my mind.

[benhall.1]

I've got one very like that one. And you're not having it.

[RudallRose]

Will you show me the streets you're talking about David?

Sure....happy to give up my own 20 years of research and work for nothing.

Take the time, do the work, and you'll locate the very same "streets" others such as myself, Tony Bingham (who probably invented them), Patsy Maloney, David Levine, even David Ogden, to mention just a few, have found.

Not without risk, though. Many a flute came my way that outright stunk and was junk....and I paid the price for the knowledge. No risk, no reward.

Not too many good souls around (I know of none) who would locate and purchase a playable or restorable Rudall (Pratten, whatever) for $1,000 and then offer it to whomever for the same price.....and repeat the process over and again.

If the going price on a playable Rudall is $3500-$6000+ .... what does it matter what the other guy got it for? Is his profit margin somehow to be tempered by the mathematics of his gain? Yeah, right.

I've made as little as $250 from the investment in a Rudall.....and 10times that.

But the price, ultimately, is the price.....unless there's a huge deluge of Rudalls all of sudden on the market.

With demand low right now, owners simply hold onto the flute until the market turns again.

Pretty simple.

But there's the rub to the "Streets." You have to be willing to tie up some of your cash in holding it.....and that can be for a period of years.

[LorenzoFlute]

This is getting more and more mysterious...

[popsnorkle]

But who's to say that the selling price is what a flute like this one goes for? Why is this one worth $5,495.00 and the Jon C. is selling worth $2400?

[Denny]

That would be Winded/im4home2 and Jon, wouldn't it.

[Jon C.]

But who's to say that the selling price is what a flute like this one goes for? Why is this one worth $5,495.00 and the Jon C. is selling worth $2400?

Well, all Rudall's are not the same. The above Rudall, was made in the "Golden Age of R&R. They made these flutes in house, even some of them have the keys stamped RR, I would imagine these keys were also made in house. My RRC on the other hand was sub contracted out, probably by Wylde's shop, the keys are nickel, not silver. I would like to call my flute an "entry level Rudall"!
This is the flute I meant to recommend, it has a certain magic in it, I have not figured out what causes the Rudall magic, but this flute has it!
Now back to the shallow babbling of the C&F riff-Raff...