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claudine · Post by **claudine** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:46 am

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/ ... index.html

Roger O'Keeffe · Post by **Roger O'Keeffe** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:29 am

Oh dear.

It only took ninety-odd years for the owners of what are ludicrously known as Alsatians in Britain to begin to revert to the real name, German Shepherd dog, after this was changed in the post-1914 outburst of anti-German hysteria. But at least the Germans were officially the enemy.

The House of Saxe-Coburg is still calling itself the House of Windsor after it thought it had better dream up a new name for itself during the same outburst, and the husband of the present head of the household, Mrs Battenberg (that's Queen Elizabeth to you), is a "Mountbatten" for the same reason. Oddly enough, the cake is still called a Battenberg cake.

I don't think anyone in France is going to lose any sleep over the abolition of the term "French fries" which was unheard of anywhere in Europe until McDonald's began to inflict it on the innocent rest of the world. Now they're even using it in hick greasy spoon joints in the west of Ireland.

But "freedom fries"? Give us a break.

rbm · Post by **rbm** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:40 am

Roger O'Keeffe wrote:Oh dear.

Oddly enough, the cake is still called a Battenberg cake.

in most of Liverpool it's still known as Russian slice.

Richard

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 7:14 am

Roger O'Keeffe wrote:Oh dear.

But "freedom fries"? Give us a break.

I think the freedom fry [is that the name for what is received when a daisy cutter lands in your back yard??] topic was dealt with on this board, thanks to Bloomfield.

Readers of the Irish Times [few enough here I suppose] may have noticed the cartoon last saturday under the heading 'US foreign policy: creating a healthier nation', of the picket line outside a restaurant with signs like 'Boycott the french fries', 'Hamburgers, Frankfurters, No to German peacenik stuff' and 'Turkey?. No thanks, not until they give us our bases'.

Turner · Post by **Turner** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 7:32 am

"Freedom Fries" thats a crazy name of for a chip! Sounds like a McDonalds promotion for the new StarWars film!

You hit the nail on the head about the Queen Rodger. Dont think the royal family can survive much longer, especially with the union hanging on by a thread!

We call it a Russian slice as well, not sure why though (maybe a secret plot by the royal family to hide their real identitys, so they live off of the back of the tax payer for a few more years)

"People often ask what is the difference between an Alsatian and a German Shepherd Dog. The truth is, there is no difference. The original name was "Deutsche Schäferhund" and a direct translation is therefore "German Shepherd Dog". However, when the first specimens of the breed were brought to England, immediately after WW1, the anti-German feeling precluded public acceptance. It was agreed that a new name was needed and, since the first puppies came from Alsace, a Province in France, on the border of Germany, the name Alsatian was coined. Without the German connotation, the breed soon became popular. . . . . . . . . On the lighter side, an Alsatian is a Frenchman - from the province of Alsace! "

nickt · Post by **nickt** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:05 am

Turner wrote: the royal family ... live off of the back of the tax payer for a few more years)

They do indeed, but they also work very hard for it (I have a friend who worked with them behind the scenes for 3 months), and they also generate £10 of revenue for every £1 they cost, so if nothing else they're a very sound business proposition for the country.

Wizzer · Post by **Wizzer** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:28 am

Now how will they change the name of this to give it a more Patriotic Theme

We are in the longest running bear market in the history of the country, millions out of work, millions with out health insurance and the best we can come up with is "Freedom Fries".
Does this not tell you that we are sending idiots to Congress! Now how will they change the name of this to give it a more Patriotic Theme

This "Patriotic Correctness" is really weird.

Turner · Post by **Turner** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:46 am

I am not going there Nickt mate. There is no place for kings and queens in modern day life!

Why should we have a head of state, that is self appointed. We live in a so called Democratic nation, so why are we subjects instead of Citzens?

TubeDude · Post by **TubeDude** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:48 am

Thank you, claudine, for starting yet another thread for a political topic on the whistle board. You have sucessfully opened another can of worms.

Hey! (Or is is "eh"?!) how about those canadians?

It was announced today that Canada is now prepared to help the United States in its war against terrorism.. They have promised to commit 2 of their largest battleships, 6,000 armed troops and 60 fighter jets........... However...... after the exchange rate, that comes down to a canoe, 2 Mounties and a flying squirrel....

Must get moose and squirrel....

TD

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Walden · Post by **Walden** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:54 am

A political statement was being made, however trite the method might seem. Did it do any good? Well, it got people talking anyway. Did it incline the French to support the American position on the matter? I doubt it. Does it hurt anything to call French fried potatoes "freedom fries"? I doubt it.

Old Name: French Cut Green Beans
New Name: Slivered Freedom Pods

Old Name: French Dip Sandwich
New Name: Soggy Submarine

Old Name: French Onion Soup
New Name: Patriot Broth

Old Name: French Bread
New Name: Liberty Loaf

Old Name: French Dressing
New Name: Star Spangled Salad Syrup

Old Name: French Onion Dip
New Name: Guar Gum Soy Product For Freedom Chips

Old Name: French Harp
New Name: Harmonica

Old Name: Durkee French Fried Onions
New Name: French's Taste Toppers

burnsbyrne · Post by **burnsbyrne** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:59 am

Walden,
What shall we call the "French Tickler"? Ooh La La!
Mike

Rockymtnpiper · Post by **Rockymtnpiper** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:02 am

Does this not tell you that we are sending idiots to Congress!

Most likely, as with anything else that runs through Washington a lobbyist bought the "freedom Fry" name.

OF course we are talking about people who spend millions to get a job that only pays $200,000 or so... talk about dumb as a box of rocks..

Walden · Post by **Walden** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:08 am

Rockymtnpiper wrote: OF course we are talking about people who spend millions to get a job that only pays $200,000 or so... talk about dumb as a box of rocks..

Assuming they are in it for the money. There is more to life. I suspect most legislators are in it for the power and prestige.

Zubivka · Post by **Zubivka** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:08 am

burnsbyrne wrote:Walden,
What shall we call the "French Tickler"? Ooh La La!
Mike

You're in troubled waters, here.
Plain French letters don't work either.
Condom is no more patriotic : it's the name of a French village which invented the, er... we call it "English coat".

And it's forbidden by the Pope anyway. He put it on the Index (of all places!) even before his, er, current condition.

claudine · Post by **claudine** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:11 am

And what about the french horn, the hamburger, the mayonnaise and the bretzel?

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