C major note when playing in D minor

RonaldD · Post by **RonaldD** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:21 am

Hello, I was playing notes in making a D minor tune on my B/C accordion
and realized that I was playing the C natural note just below the D as an intro note.
This C sounds really nice in D minor.
I am new to flutes, with the help of a key can that C natural below the D be played on the flute.
I just assumed that without a key it is not possible.
What I was playing was the D first octave, same as the low first octave D on the whistle.
Of course it would tantamount to the low D on the flute.
Such a beautiful note in D mionor.
Ronald

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:48 am

from Rick Wilson's Historical Flutes Page

plays to low D

plays to C below low D

LorenzoFlute · Post by **LorenzoFlute** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:23 am

5 posts, 5 threads opened, 5 questions asked, and not even one thank you.
We're not being payed to be here and answer your questions you know

Peter Duggan · Post by **Peter Duggan** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:34 am

RonaldD wrote:This C sounds really nice in D minor.

Probably transforming it into D Aeolian!

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:34 pm

Othannen wrote:5 posts, 5 threads opened, 5 questions asked, and not even one thank you.
We're not being payed to be here and answer your questions you know

ew! statistics!!

we loves statistics, we do

Post by **benhall.1** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:59 pm

Peter Duggan wrote:
RonaldD wrote:This C sounds really nice in D minor.
Probably transforming it into D Aeolian!

Um ... or, more commonly, D dorian.

jiminos · Post by **jiminos** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:12 pm

modes? really? modes? i hate modes.... i wonder how many musicians have managed to get through life without any more knowledge of modes than that they exist.... or even no knowledge of modes at all..... just wondering... i admit, i'm ignorant.... key sig looks like F.... sounds kinda sad... hmmm... D minor maybe?... ow, well, beats me, still sounds good.... i'll just play it....

be well,

jim

Peter Duggan · Post by **Peter Duggan** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:14 pm

benhall.1 wrote:Um ... or, more commonly, D dorian.

Nope, I thought of that but specified Aeolian for the Bb assumed from the OP's D minor!

Post by **benhall.1** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:26 pm

Peter Duggan wrote:
benhall.1 wrote:Um ... or, more commonly, D dorian.
Nope, I thought of that but specified Aeolian for the Bb assumed from the OP's D minor!

Ah. I've come across that before. In my understanding, the term 'minor' doesn't only include the scale known in some classical music circles as 'minor'. So, the only thing implied to me is the minor third at the bottom of the scale, and probably a diatonic mode (of one sort or another) for the rest of it.

RonaldD · Post by **RonaldD** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:53 pm

Othanenn,
I usually wait till the post has no more responses so I can Thank everyone.
When you give Thanks to the first, second or third person that answers; some people sometimes will feel
that there are no more valuable answers to be given and will think that the post is no longer in need of their responses.
Perhaps I should do it your way and Thank everyone in advance....
I certainly did not mean to be uncouth or indifferent in anyway.
Thank You for your responses, especially you Othanenn for this particular post.
Ronald

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:04 pm

Othannen wrote:We're not being payed to be here and answer your questions you know

We're not? Hell, no wonder I'm not rich yet.

Ronald: Yes, if you start a question thread, you should take the time to respond before starting a new thread.

RonaldD wrote:I was playing the C natural note just below the D as an intro note. This C sounds really nice in D minor.

What people casually call "D minor" trad tunes are usually actually D Dorian, with C-nat as the leading tone. Which is why the C sounds good. And the lack of the low C on pipes, whistle, and many flutes is one of the reasons that DDor tunes are less common, or are transposed to EDor with access to the low D leading tone.

Unseen122 · Post by **Unseen122** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:30 pm

FWIW the difference between D aeolian/natural minor and dorian is the raised 6th in this case it means D aeolian has a Bb and dorian has a b natural. The dorian mode can be thought of as aeolian/natural minor with a raised 6th, or a major scale starting and ending on the second note of the scale in this case it would be the C scale starting on D. In order to play a low C on flute you need low C# and C keys as both holes need to be covered to produce the low C.

RonaldD · Post by **RonaldD** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:41 pm

MTGuru wrote...When you start a question thread, you should take the time to answer before starting a new thread.
I don't even know how to transfer someones answer to my reply...
That makes absolute sense.
And I more than likely got overzealous in having too many questions about an instrument
that I am just learning.
Ronald

Steve Bliven · Post by **Steve Bliven** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:26 pm

Othannen wrote:5 posts, 5 threads opened, 5 questions asked, and not even one thank you.
We're not being payed to be here and answer your questions you know

And why use a PM when you have the opportunity to embarrass a newcomer publicly?

Steve

ImNotIrish · Post by **ImNotIrish** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:06 pm

Uh-Oh! What was my last post? And, which forum? Like to chat, but I'd better check up on any loose threads!

Arbo

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