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s1m0n wrote:I'm still convinced by the mismatch in wear patterns on the case that the head is not the one that was made with the rest of the flute.
sorry S1m0n, I'm with Jem.

Just camera angle. The picture is not straight down centered on the hinge.
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I really do appreciate all the feedback from all of you guys. All I can say is that I bought this flute from an auction 22 yrs ago for $14.00 and the headjoint was in it. Thanks keep more info if you can.
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You can easily account for perspective, at least approximately, by measuring the photograph in pixels, and checking for proportionality of the head vs. the image of the head on the case lining.

Take as reference points the following, which are visible on both the head and the lining:

A: raised ridge at the base of head (left)
B: incised line on head (middle)
C: raised ridge at endcap (right)

HEAD: (A to B)/(B to C) = 202/474 = 0.426
CASE: (A to B)/(B to C) = 160/370 = 0.432

The ratios are identical (0.43) to the nearest hundredth. Which suggests that the head is indeed the original which matches the case impression.
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MTGuru wrote: The ratios are identical (0.43) to the nearest hundredth. Which suggests that the head is indeed the original which matches the case impression.
Guru, I see that you were absent from Harvard the week that they taught this lesson in logic. I suggest that your conclusion above does not follow logically. What we can say from observation is that the head now with the flute does indeed match the case impression, which was my thought at a quick glance. However, it is a big step to say that the head is the original head, although I suspect that it is. It could well be that the original head was dropped and destroyed ten years after the flute was made, and in the many years since then the replacement head has made the mark in the case that we now see.
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Doug_Tipple wrote:Guru, I see that you were absent from Harvard the week that they taught this lesson in logic.
Logic? Logic?

Well, my research shows that this is actually the Flute of Theseus. Every single part and piece of the original has been replaced with a part or piece which is absolutely identical to the original in every minute detail. So the flute is not original at all. Or is it ...?

In fact, I suspect that the Doug posting here is not the identical Doug that I met a few years ago. Rumor has it that you've been replacing cells like they're going out of style. Impostor!

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Guru-Tipple head-to-head? :o :D

Nicole, you didn't come back on the key markings.....
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Oh I'm sorry!! Ive been enjoying reading you guys argue back and forth about the head!.. :lol: Oh i seen that there are 2 slash marks under each key.
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I could put the head in another direction if it would help settle things. :D
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MTGuru wrote: In fact, I suspect that the Doug posting here is not the identical Doug that I met a few years ago. Rumor has it that you've been replacing cells like they're going out of style. Impostor!
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I'm sorry to say that the only cells that I haven't been replacing are brain cells, and I think I know the reason.
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Doug_Tipple wrote:I'm sorry to say that the only cells that I haven't been replacing are brain cells, and I think I know the reason.
Try Nicole's solution, Doug - put your head the other way round!
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so does the 2 slash like tally marks mean anything on my keys?
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Denny wrote:
s1m0n wrote:I'm still convinced by the mismatch in wear patterns on the case that the head is not the one that was made with the rest of the flute.
sorry S1m0n, I'm with Jem. Just camera angle. The picture is not straight down centered on the hinge.
I think so - Little doubt that this is the original head
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huberbry wrote:so do the 2 slash like tally marks mean anything on my keys?
Only what I already speculated about in a post on page 2.....
Jemtheflute wrote:Re: key "tally marks" - are these crude file- or saw-cut Roman numerals (diagonal slashes, or v or x marks)? Similar may also appear on joint butt-ends. If so, these are factory marks identifying parts of a particular flute or just sets of keys through the manufacturing process and are common on the output especially of the German instrument factories of the Markneukirchen area, though workshops elsewhere also did similar things. Unfortunately they don't help at all in identifying the maker.
Pay attention, now! :wink:
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I will pay attention I will check it out. :thumbsup:
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