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Re: And the award for World's Ugliest Flute goes to....

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jemtheflute wrote:
Jim Stone wrote:I think Sweetheart flutes look good enough and sound better and are a great value. I've played
lots of em, own several (especially in higher keys) and think they have the elegance of
woody simplicity.
Julia Delaney wrote:Seconded.
Dissented from... (whistles as well as flutes). Whenever I've tried them out (in shops/at festival stalls/other people's), I've always thought them, especially the older ones, unattractive at best, relatively crudely made and of little musical utility - until some significant improvement in some models in very recent years. I certainly would never have bought any of the older ones and haven't been particularly impressed by more recent ones, save for surprise at the marked improvement, which has reached a point where I might not actively advise against some of them if asked for an opinion, though I think there are better things available in the same price ranges.

While dishing out opinions, I too think the McCarty ash flute which is the main subject here is rather ugly - and would be even uglier as a table leg than as a flute!

P.S. I hadn't pegged my old friend Ben as such a leg man! Funny what he turns up! (Hollow laugh??? ;-))
Hmm...now which flute maker will I go after next and call his work the ugliest pieces of sh*te ever to come off a lathe? Oh, this should be a whole lot of fun. :thumbsup:

PS I think Sweetheart flutes are just fine for what they are. Have liked quite a few. Not pro quality, but fun and certainly, to me, not ugly.
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Let's just start calling flute makers ugly.

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This is an ugly thread.
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Are you sure you're not related? Two such shark-fin noses cannot be coincidence.
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Two flute auctions placed side by side on ebay tonight is very interesting with regard to this thread, in my mind, at least.
ebay ad 1
ebay ad 2

On his ebay ad Eric McCarty writes: "I have added some nice details to this flute while on the lathe which make it a one of a kind work of art."
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I wonder what they mean by "Brass-Chromed Rings".....
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I'd at least give the smooth flute a speculative toot if confronted by it, but I wouldn't touch the one with the carefully pre-weakened barrel if you paid me. A flute with that many grooves in the body is either too weak or too heavy. Or most likely both.

A maker with so little understanding of strength, weight & design in the instrument he's trying to make professionally does little to inspire faith in his command of any other aspect of flute design.
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Doug_Tipple wrote:Two flute auctions placed side by side on ebay tonight is very interesting with regard to this thread, in my mind, at least.
ebay ad 1
ebay ad 2

On his ebay ad Eric McCarty writes: "I have added some nice details to this flute while on the lathe which make it a one of a kind work of art."
Since the beginning of time, buy and sell is the name of the game.
Here is another one from McCarty.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120743045779#ht_3731wt_982
''Whistles of Wood'', cpvc and brass. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69086
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Can't beat that cacus.

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Can't beat that cacus

NEW SOLID CACUS WOOD IRISH CELTIC FIFE FLUTE KEY D + WOOD CASE

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I reckon they've missed out a 't'. I think they might have meant "cactus wood". Lightweight, sturdy ... it could be ...
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greatbasinfolkinstruments wrote:Item specifics
Condition:
New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). Packaging should be the same as what is found in a retail store, unless the item is handmade or was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller's listing for full details. See all condition definitions
akronmusic wrote:Item specifics
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Cocus sapwood is light-colored like that, so without testing or other expertise, whether or not it's actual cocus must be a matter of conjecture. Cocus heartwood is the beautiful dark wood so prized for instrument making, and what I usually associate with the name. I know a fellow who bought a flute much like the Cacus ( :wink: ) example, probably the very same make itself, by the look of it. Positively screamed Pakistani. I'd never seen light-colored cocus before, so I was dubious. Came to him with the cork rudely out of position, too. Once that was fixed, for what it was and where I'm convinced it came from, I must confess it was actually better than I'd previously come across, but it still had intonation issues. Tone wasn't too bad at all, if you dragged it out with a tow truck.
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I think the item decription is ebay's work, you'll find the same thing on any item decribed by the vendor as new.
Just checked and that is the case.
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Just what I was going to say, Dominic. That is one of the standard item condition definitions provided by eBay itself. They changed recently.
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