Wilkes keyless flute

[Steampacket]

A nice looking flute, but I doubt it will sell with such a high starting bid, and on top of that the reserve price has to be met.
Aye the Rudall style has four sections. They are great instruments.

[benhall.1]

Aye the Rudall style has four sections.

Does that apply to keyless as well as to keyed flutes? I've been back to Chris' website, and it does say that the Rudall style has four sections, whereas the Pratten style has three, but still, there's something niggling me there about keyless ones and whether they too comply with this 'rule' ...

[James_Alto]

http://wilkesflutes.co.uk/Site/Home.html

Is that it?

The image links leads to his family photo album. I couldn't find any images of the wilkes flute on his site.

[benhall.1]

There's something weird that's happening when I go to Chris' site this evening. I can't see the menu bar across the top. It's there, 'cos if you hover over the places where the menu ought to be you can see the links at the bottom left of the screen. It's as if the menu is written in white, the same colour as the background. Is that just me?

[Denny]

is you...try F5 might'a had a style sheet problem

[Denny]

http://wilkesflutes.co.uk/Site/Home.html

Is that it?

The image links leads to his family photo album. I couldn't find any images of the wilkes flute on his site.

http://wilkesflutes.co.uk/Site/Rudall%20types.html

maybe Rob's working on the site today...

[benhall.1]

is you...try F5 might'a had a style sheet problem

I tried F5 before, and just have again now. Also tried the usual refresh button. The menu items appear briefly and then disappear. Goodness only knows what's happening.

[jim stone]

End caps can be hypnotically beautiful, even on less elaborately ornamented flutes.
Art form, this is.

[James_Alto]

http://wilkesflutes.co.uk/Site/Home.html

Is that it?

The image links leads to his family photo album. I couldn't find any images of the wilkes flute on his site.

http://wilkesflutes.co.uk/Site/Rudall%20types.html

maybe Rob's working on the site today...

I can the see the page of flute images now. It's changed from the smiling sunny pictures of happy people by the beach!

What beautiful looking flutes. They all look incredibly stunning.

My only question is why such beautiful flutes ... with all of the chrome/silver rimmed finger holes and detail in the exquisite keywork...
why all of this, only to bind it in cotton thread for a tenon for the silver head flute?

Surely a proper metal tenon would make sense, to make such gorgeous flutes?

[Lars Larry Mór Mott]

Aye the Rudall style has four sections.

Does that apply to keyless as well as to keyed flutes? I've been back to Chris' website, and it does say that the Rudall style has four sections, whereas the Pratten style has three, but still, there's something niggling me there about keyless ones and whether they too comply with this 'rule' ...

Dunno about Mr Wilkes, but other makers that i know of "R&R's" and "Prattens" are equal body-wise, keys or no keys.

[jim stone]

The split middle on rudall-style flutes is traditional and it has the advantage of enabling the fluter
to put the rt and left hand holes in different positions. While it's possible there are some exceptions,
this is pretty well distinctive of rudalls, keyless and keyed. So bryan byrne, sam murray and other rudall
makers follow the traditional configuration, regardless. As CW says he does it too, and as he is
one of the makers who is often said to be more faithful than most to old rudalls, I think we can
take it that he splits the middle, whether or not the rudall is keyed.

I've in my life seen one pratten-style flute that was split in the middle, at the request of the individual
who had bought it, so that he could put the rt and left hand holes in different positions.
However I've never seen an Olwell Rudall and wonder whether it is so arranged?
Anybody know?

[Steampacket]

"Does that apply to keyless as well as to keyed flutes? I've been back to Chris' website, and it does say that the Rudall style has four sections, whereas the Pratten style has three, but still, there's something niggling me there about keyless ones and whether they too comply with this 'rule' ..." Benhall.

Yes, I have one here, a keyless Rudall style, D Wilkes with the wide rings, metal endcap, flute case, just the one on e-bay. It has four sections, cost 1400 USD or 14000 Swedish crowns, can't remember which.

[benhall.1]

"Does that apply to keyless as well as to keyed flutes? I've been back to Chris' website, and it does say that the Rudall style has four sections, whereas the Pratten style has three, but still, there's something niggling me there about keyless ones and whether they too comply with this 'rule' ..." Benhall.

Yes, I have one here, a keyless Rudall style, D Wilkes with the wide rings, metal endcap, flute case, just the one on e-bay. It has four sections, cost 1400 USD or 14000 Swedish crowns, can't remember which.

Well, that clears that up then.

[Julia Delaney]

Yes, I have one here, a keyless Rudall style, D Wilkes with the wide rings, metal endcap, flute case, just [like] the one on e-bay. It has four sections, cost 1400 USD or 14000 Swedish crowns, can't remember which.
Yes, I sold this flute, many years ago, and of course wish I hadn't. It is a beautiful flute. The silver work is gorgeous and it plays every bit as nice as it looks. And by the way, the price was a good deal more than mentioned, but less than the eBay flute. Given that Chris isn't making many of these fancy flutes, and that it is so striking visually, the price isn't insane.
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.Surely a proper metal tenon would make sense, to make such gorgeous flutes?
What is that bit about metal tenons? I prefer to have tenons wrapped with cotton thread. A tight fitting cork wrap, on a tenon that is then greased and forced into a socket, can be just as damaging to a tenon as thread... if that is the issue.

[Nanohedron]

Surely a proper metal tenon would make sense, to make such gorgeous flutes?

James, are you actually talking about tenon ferrules, such as one might see on Hammy Hamilton's flutes?