Because I play with a worship team, I need them to be tunable, since the guitars and piano won't be tuning to me.Nanohedron wrote:Clarkes and their sidelines come at least in C, don't they?
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Because I play with a worship team, I need them to be tunable, since the guitars and piano won't be tuning to me.Nanohedron wrote:Clarkes and their sidelines come at least in C, don't they?
Right. I was talking about those with the plastic head; Sweetones, aren't they called?wyodeb wrote:Because I play with a worship team, I need them to be tunable, since the guitars and piano won't be tuning to me.Nanohedron wrote:Clarkes and their sidelines come at least in C, don't they?
... and their cheaper stablemates, the Megs. As with all plastic-headed whistles that aren't designed to be tunable, these will go a bit flat by pulling the head off slightly, but to get one to go sharp might involve some minor surgery, specifically, remove the head completely, shorten the tube slightly and refit the head. Given the Clarke is tapered, removal of too much tube may well result in a loose head. Also note that the Clarke has rather less metal tube in the plastic head than, say, a Generation of similar pitch, so will have less potential adjustment. I think I'd like to confirm the piano to be at least at a near approximation of "concert pitch" before getting too involved in this procedure.those with the plastic head; Sweetones, aren't they called?
Hmmm, I don't think so. There's no "pressure" in the tube, beyond the wave pressure of the standing wave within the tube. What you perceive as backpressure is an impedance effect that occurs at the fipple/air reed itself as it mode-couples to the resonance of the tube. Nearly all the breath pressure exits at the fipple window and doesn't "back up" in the tube.Tommy wrote:The whistle relies on air pressure building up in the tone tube to back up and interrupt the air stream crossing over the window from the wind way exit to the blade. It is this interruption that causes the air to vibrate and make the sound of a note. With a tone tube that gets wider the presser would dissipate, probably get only the sound a whistle head makes with out a tone tube.
http://www.garviebagpipes.co.uk/info/wh ... istle.html?MTGuru wrote:Reversing the cone will have the opposite effects: further flattening the octaves, and increasing the already wide bottom hand hole spacing. Both are bad things. But there's no acoustic reason it won't still sound and play like a whistle*.
* Unless, of course, the flare is so wide relative to the fipple bore that it no longer behaves like a tube.
Phil Bleazey. Not too cheap, but powerful and with a fine rich woody complex tone (I would have said recorder-like, but that is generally seen as a negative here). But they do need a big push in the highest notes. I have a D and a G and like them a lot.wyodeb wrote:Not to interrupt the fun, but does anyone have suggestions for tunable conical-bore whistles in keys besides D — besides the mythical, unobtainable Copelands.
Thanks!
Deb
... from the Manufacturer's website, Sweetones are £7.99 (that's pounds sterling), Meg's are £4.99 ... as usual, shopping around will provide alternative pricesMegs are not cheaper than Sweetones in my experience
I've paid roughly the same price for each (about $10 USD, always retail, mind you). Honestly, having owned both, I cannot tell the difference between them aside from the name. There literally is NO difference what-so-ever in the construction of these two whistles, nor is there any difference in how they sound or play in my hands. For the company to be referring to the Meg as more econically made, I have no idea how they could be qualifying this statement unless they are defining "more economically made" as using it to refer to their left-over, over-stock... maybe because they cost more to produce now than they did before (?). I have compared these whistles side by side, I have swapped the heads around - no difference. They are the same whistle. What I have noticed is that Megs seem to be becoming scarcer, usually found as the last remnants of display cards in shops where they have been collecting dust for some time, while Sweetones seem to be more prolific, shinier, and look newer. But then, this could also be owing to some change in how they are being distributed in the US, I suppose. Either way, if you are paying more for a Sweetone because some bit of marketing somewhere states it's better than a Meg in some way, then you are getting ripped off (IMHO).Kypfer wrote:... from the Manufacturer's website, Sweetones are £7.99 (that's pounds sterling), Meg's are £4.99 ... as usual, shopping around will provide alternative pricesMegs are not cheaper than Sweetones in my experience![]()
The Meg is marketed as a "more economicaly made" version of the Sweetone, there's no indication (that I've seen) that one model is replacing the other.
... directly from Clarke's web-site "The introduction of the Meg is a result of combining, the design of our popular Sweetone range, with budget raw materials and modified production process.defining "more economically made"
... my Waltons Mellow D has "Made in Ireland by Waltons, North Frederick Street, Dublin 1" written on the label, the box for my "Irish Black Whistle" has a similar detail on it, though not on the whistle itself.I've no idea if Waltons are actually Irish made
Here's another conical bore whistle;wyodeb wrote:A little Shaw high D arrived today. It has joined my Clarke as my favorites just behind the WD Sweet. I have tried lots of whistles in the past year, but the conical ones are the ones that stay. I'm not sure why I love them so much.
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