R&R #2041 on Ebay

[MarkP]

...and no reserve, should be interesting to see what it goes for (complete with the label signatures of Mr Rudall and Rose)

"in good condition with no scratches or repairs at all" (apart from the big chunk out of it and the cracked barrel)

"box in outstanding condition" (apart from the eschucheon and lock).

Wrong date of manufacture. Is that a metal head tuning indicator sticking out there?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/380321409114

He also has a Boosey Pratten perfected and a Rudall Carte (key system)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk//380321407107

[jemtheflute]

He appears to have muddled up parts of his blurbs - mostly same info for the R&R 8-key as for the RC&Co. 1867, some of it clearly inappropriate.

[radcliff]

mmmm
crack in the head through the embouchure.
it does't looks so good ... the wood looks a bit worn... strange.
but is a Rudall so nothing to say. it worthy all the money you can spend.

BTW this lucky australian...found three gem flutes and he probably have no clue about it..
I bid that he paid few dollars for all of them.

[MarkP]

I think he just has a standard text for all his items (same for the Pratten) and adapts it a bit each time. Everything he's selling is in 'perfect' condition...apart from all the things wrong with them, which are then specified. Nothing Jon couldn't fix up easily enough I'd have thought.

PS. then again if you want a nice playing Rudall I know Dave Migoya has a few available even if they're not on Ebay

[radcliff]

Having 300 Rudalls will not be enough!
I really like Jon's work but this is a work for Batman!, Hu! No, I mean Hammy!

PS
ehi! I've manage to remove the extra -"e" in my username!

[jemtheflute]

He says the Boosey has silver keys too, when they're clearly GS - obviously not an expert, though seems to have had at least some good advice. None of the work needing doing to the R&R looks too bad - at least it is more-or-less all there (loss of the key would be a bad stumbling block). Clearly a R&R with a #2000 series serial no. must be mid-1830s.

I wouldn't mind betting the cleaning rod/screw-driver with the Boosey is actually a Rudall one (looks like to me) and belongs most likely to the 1867.

He's certainly picked up a remarkable collection!

[MarkP]

He's certainly picked up a remarkable collection!

Looks like a house clearance business, wouldn't mind finding those in my attic

[kkrell]

None of the work needing doing to the R&R looks too bad - at least it is more-or-less all there (loss of the key would be a bad stumbling block). Clearly a R&R with a #2000 series serial no. must be mid-1830s.

Did you note the crack in the body near the long F, along the finger holes?

[radcliff]

Did you note the crack in the body near the long F, along the finger holes?

that's another problem to fix. obviously a very good restorer will not have problem with all those things.
(except maybe for the crack through the embouchure).

[greystone]

Ah - AUSTRALIA - The land of milk and Rudall's !?!?!?

[MarkP]

yep, hadn't noticed the body section crack, the list is lengthening! Makes a bit of a mockery of the language used in the description but good photos, to be fair, so it's clear enough what's being sold and what needs doing.

[radcliff]

but good photos, to be fair, so it's clear enough what's being sold and what needs doing.

This because we cannot see the rest of the flute.... Wooonderful surprises to the buyer!

[Mike Meyerstein]

how do you insure a flute like this for shipping? I want to put my R&R #1364 on ebay but DHL say they won't ship antiques at all and the Post Office will ship it but won't insure it

[RudallRose]

i'd love to know who his "flautist" expert is that says the "surface crack" to the barrels don't affect the playability. What hogwash.
At least this guy didn' t have the gaul to put a high reserve. That tempers all the dumbness of the ad.

How to insure? Homeowner's policies.

I've never had an issue insuring any of my flutes for shipping ... but cracking isn't something they'll insure against. Just theft or loss or breakage. Nobody insures against cracking (except maybe the manufacturer for a short period after it's made).

All my flutes are insured under my homeowner's policy. Full value. You never know.

[Mike Meyerstein]

David;

did you tell the shipping company that it (the flute, that is) was an antique?