"Irish travellers" in the news

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Resource for learning about Irish Travellers, with a Human Rights perspective:

http://paveepoint.ie/

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We had a "family" of people that aligned themselves with Irish Travelers or Tinkers or whatever in Milwaukee. They happened to steal a TON of money from the Shamrock Club of Milwaukee of which I am very involved and my mother is on the board of trustees. They are now being prosecuted along with another person who shall not be named. The main quote is either "Who, me???" or "We helped out with everything, we wouldn't steal money..." But then we found all the evidence. They're in court now. One of them came from a country north of us, and has now run out on the family of "tinkers", along with the rest of their money, back to his legal family across town and is trying not to get deported.

Ps, these "tinkers" told everyone they came from the south, but they're covered in "celtic" tattoos.

Gah, makes me sick. People will side with any minority outcast group nowadays to get the oh poor them sentiment.

Prosecute the child abuser for child abuse, prosecute the thieves for theft, and be done with it. No one is different in the eyes of the law. Or they shouldn't be at least.

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Clearly, if one of them ripped you off, they must belong to an entire race of thieves.
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

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s1m0n wrote:Clearly, if one of them ripped you off, they must belong to an entire race of thieves.
Canadians.

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The Irish Travellers I have met have been good, decent people who have gone out of their way to be helpful to me. It's wrong to put down a whole ethnic group, or a country's population because of the actions of a few. Are all white male Americans gun crazy, right wing Christians, intelligent design believers, afraid of paying income tax, and potential serial killers? I don't think so. Most people are pretty decent just trying to make their way in this world
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What sjcavy says is pretty typical of the general feeling & assumption in Ireland towards Travellers.

A term increasingly being used in the Irish situation by people who have actually studied and thought about the causes of such things is:

'Institutional Racism': “the collective failure of an organization [Government etc] to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their color, culture, or ethnic origin”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

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If you look at my post gentleman I was not bashing the Travelers at all, I was bashing the people who said they were travelers. That's why there's quotation marks. They don't belong using that as an excuse, and neither does the child abuser. I wasn't pushing the whole group of Travelers into the thieves category, I was just saying we've had something like that happen in Milwaukee. People trying to hop on the minority bandwagon.

Hey Stampacket (not trying to start anything), I am a white male American who is gun crazy. I love my firearms. :D
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sjcavy wrote:...I am a white male American who is gun crazy. I love my firearms. :D
Damn right. Any God-fearin' Scots-Irish American feels downright naked without a musical instrument in one hand and a rifle in the other. What gives?
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"Damn right. Any God-fearin' Scots-Irish American feels downright naked without a musical instrument in one hand and a rifle in the other. What gives?" Ceann Cromtha.
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Ceann Cromtha wrote:
sjcavy wrote:...I am a white male American who is gun crazy. I love my firearms. :D
Damn right. Any God-fearin' Scots-Irish American feels downright naked without a musical instrument in one hand and a rifle in the other. What gives?
Them's from the other side of the tracks. My people think a drink is far more worthwhile than a gun, and no contest. Less cumbersome at a session, too.

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I really thought this thread was new and it was going to be about My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding,
Everyone in Glasgow is obsessed with the show. It's great fun though hardly an anthropological look at
travellers more sensational channel four "documentary" and no traditional music yet.
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Steampacket wrote:"Damn right. Any God-fearin' Scots-Irish American feels downright naked without a musical instrument in one hand and a rifle in the other. What gives?" Ceann Cromtha.
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"Celebrate Diveristy! Coexist! " Ceann Cromtha.

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Steampacket wrote:"Damn right. Any God-fearin' Scots-Irish American feels downright naked without a musical instrument in one hand and a rifle in the other. What gives?" Ceann Cromtha.
:really: - weird
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maki wrote:
Steampacket wrote:"Damn right. Any God-fearin' Scots-Irish American feels downright naked without a musical instrument in one hand and a rifle in the other. What gives?" Ceann Cromtha.
:really: - weird
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Rifles? Shotguns please!
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