Traditional vs. Modern playing
- gallant_murray
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Traditional vs. Modern playing
Which clip gives you the most tingles?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3fW4Nox9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KQTv8qvkE
Note: I changed the title to state more clearly what I'm going for. This is not about who is better; it's about which style you prefer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3fW4Nox9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KQTv8qvkE
Note: I changed the title to state more clearly what I'm going for. This is not about who is better; it's about which style you prefer.
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Ennis without a doubt...I was expecting Flately to come tripping across the stage at any moment in his sequins on tip toe on the Mc Sherry clip. and contrary to what was said on the other thread it is not easier to play a flat set than a concert.
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I didn't vote on the music in the clips. I voted on the hair-cuts. Say what you want about Ennis, but he had style. JMcS, on the other hand ... let's just say that the 70s are over.
It's probably not fair to compare the clips regarding the piping, as SE is solo (playing his regs) and JMcS just plays his chanter and has another musician accompanying him.
It's probably not fair to compare the clips regarding the piping, as SE is solo (playing his regs) and JMcS just plays his chanter and has another musician accompanying him.
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I stand by what I said on the other thread - "I think its much more difficult to control the concert sets and to create something special with their sound and tone". I know and have heard many pipers who sound grand on a flat set but give them a concert set and....... Lets just say they are different beasts.
I don't think anyone can or should dismiss either of the clips. They both show great control and emotion by both players. The differences are that one is old and the other modern, one is on a flat set, the other on a concert. Both are great!
I don't think anyone can or should dismiss either of the clips. They both show great control and emotion by both players. The differences are that one is old and the other modern, one is on a flat set, the other on a concert. Both are great!
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They are different beasties, I'll give you that. But as it has been written a gazillion times already in this forum, reed set up makes all of the difference.uilleannpiper wrote:I stand by what I said on the other thread - "I think its much more difficult to control the concert sets and to create something special with their sound and tone". I know and have heard many pipers who sound grand on a flat set but give them a concert set and....... Lets just say they are different beasts.
Ronan Browne, for instance, is playing a very nice and gentle sounding concert set in his recording The Wynd You Know. When I first heard the recording, I swore they were a flat pitched set.
Sure, there may be an argument made for sound engineering, but in this example, I believe it is the way Ronan built and set his reeds up to play.
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I think it's all in the piper. I'd never mistake the pipes on The wynd you know for a flat set and I would not think of them as gentle sounding at all either so what do I know.
But maybe there's some validity in the interview with Liam O Flynn for 'The Seamus Ennis story' where he tells how Ennis picked up his (Flynn's) pipes and 'there it was, that unmistakable Ennis tone'
Equally I remember the reaction from the London pipers when LOF for the first time played a concert there on Ennis' pipes. Asked how it was the reaction was 'ah well.. like Flynn, playing a flat set'.
But maybe there's some validity in the interview with Liam O Flynn for 'The Seamus Ennis story' where he tells how Ennis picked up his (Flynn's) pipes and 'there it was, that unmistakable Ennis tone'
Equally I remember the reaction from the London pipers when LOF for the first time played a concert there on Ennis' pipes. Asked how it was the reaction was 'ah well.. like Flynn, playing a flat set'.
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Sure, the piper has pretty much everything to do with it.
To my ear, Ronan's pipes are considerably mellower in tone than most concert sets I have heard to date.
But what's the difference? There really isn't any need to compare the piping styles of McSherry and Ennis, seperated by loads of decades, personal experience and background influences.
It is an exercise in futility within the theater of the absurd, which I liken to the childhood boasting game of "My mother can beat up your Dad". IOW, utterly pointless.
To my ear, Ronan's pipes are considerably mellower in tone than most concert sets I have heard to date.
But what's the difference? There really isn't any need to compare the piping styles of McSherry and Ennis, seperated by loads of decades, personal experience and background influences.
It is an exercise in futility within the theater of the absurd, which I liken to the childhood boasting game of "My mother can beat up your Dad". IOW, utterly pointless.
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