Ivory & Customs
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Ivory & Customs
I haven't (thanks be to Jayzuz!)
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No Ivory for me !
There a many good alternatives, artificial, boxwood, any other kind of wood. The set isn't sounding better with ivory at all. For the elephants I would say NO...........
Besides this a lots of elephants were killed for ivory for a terrible set to.
But for the old sets wich already have it, don't change because of this. But new sets, I think the pipemaker has to take his respobility
http://drake.marin.k12.ca.us/stuwork/se ... asons.html
And this just for luxery............
There a many good alternatives, artificial, boxwood, any other kind of wood. The set isn't sounding better with ivory at all. For the elephants I would say NO...........
Besides this a lots of elephants were killed for ivory for a terrible set to.
But for the old sets wich already have it, don't change because of this. But new sets, I think the pipemaker has to take his respobility
http://drake.marin.k12.ca.us/stuwork/se ... asons.html
And this just for luxery............
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Sort of. I do not own any ivory pipes but was driving an elderly Englishman across the Canadian border and we were detained for 3 hours due to his Reid set of Northumbrian pipes with a substantial amount of ivory on them. It took ages to convince them that they were a very long time ago (as was he).
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I recall someone posted a customs document regarding the identification of ivory. From what I recall, much of the identification comes down to the grain. That's how they differenciate between elephant ivory and mammoth or walrus ivory.Tony wrote:I suppose many years of visual training, scratch testing, UV lights, chemical test, burn tests.Uilleann915 wrote:....how does Customs know it's real or imitation?
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Ivory
Took my pipes to Ireland in August, ivory and all. I was nervous but encountered no trouble. An inspector in Shannon monitoring the xray machine quipped with a straight face "I will have to confiscate those", and my stomach was in my mouth, then he chuckled, and said that he wished that he could play them. No problems at all and I traveled on the day that the London airport terrorism plot was squashed.
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I do think the Canadian customs agents have an eye out for ivory. When I bought my pipes (in Vermont) and took them back across the border to home, they inspected the set carefully and asked me about the rings (which were imitation ivory, so no problems there).liestman wrote:Sort of. I do not own any ivory pipes but was driving an elderly Englishman across the Canadian border and we were detained for 3 hours due to his Reid set of Northumbrian pipes with a substantial amount of ivory on them. It took ages to convince them that they were a very long time ago (as was he).
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lets get 'em for their meat! Vegetarians be gone!
Seriously though - from what I have read and seen Mammoth Ivory does not look different to elephant ivory unless it is heavily stained by minerals. If customs did indeed confiscate a set mounted in it would it be necessary to have it carbon dated to prove it was mammoth and get the instrument back ? How accurate is carbon dating - geologically speaking mammoths only became extinct in recent time. Would a receipt from the maker stating Mammoth Ivory was used be good enough to convince them ?
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Elmek wrote:from what I have read and seen Mammoth Ivory does not look different to elephant ivory unless it is heavily stained by minerals.
http://www.lab.fws.gov/ivory/PJ wrote:I recall someone posted a customs document regarding the identification of ivory. From what I recall, much of the identification comes down to the grain. That's how they differenciate between elephant ivory and mammoth or walrus ivory.
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If ye carry your CITES certificate with the set then ye will have no problem at all.That is why they print them.It may be a bit of a rigmarole to get one but if ye persist then ye will obtain the certificate.If ye don't have a certificate then ye shouldn't really travel with them.
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