FULL SET OF "D" PIPES BY GINSBERG - eBay

No E · Post by **No E** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:37 pm

I think Hevia, Parrado & Aragon lists their practise set* for 1200 Euro (add 65 and 80 Euros repsectively for bagcover and case). Not cheap if you're using Yankee greenbacks.

No E

*Ebony with stainless steel and faux-ivory mounts, includes a C-nat key.

Royce · Post by **Royce** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:20 pm

Bill McCloskey wrote:This is a warning message: twice now I have received what appear to be fradulent emails from someone through the ebay email system, all related to my bidding on this item.

The first one came right after the first time the bidding ended on this set of pipes. Someone sent me an email throught Ebay saying that they had an identical "Factory Sealed" uilleann pipe for sale that he would let go for my bid amount: which I thought was both strange and funny. I wonder what a "Factory Sealed" Ginsberg full set would look like.

The second one came today saying that the seller was offering the set to me as Second Offering because the winning bid did not send the money and they were accepting my offer: strange since it is currently listed a second time and the first time didn't meet the reserve price.

It has been a while since I bid on Ebay. I didn't know this type of fraud was prevelent now.

Not necessarily fraud, except to ebay. The first instance is a way of circumventing auction fees entirely when several of an item are available. You simply email the bidding que down the line and as you note, offer the additional sets to the runners-up. You end up making more than the final bid price because no fees are involved.

The second instance may be simply an ignorant reseller trying to describe a set of pipes sent out enclosed in plastic or in an unopened packing box direct from the maker. Same modus operandi, auction fees are entirely circumvented.

You have no Ebay recourse however if it is fraud. You may be able to go through Pay Pal and have some protection there.

Royce

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:26 pm

beckitybek wrote:This is just my personal opinion, but in general I reckon that if a pipemaker has sets of pipes surplus to requirements that need to be sold on Ebay then there has got to be a question about their quality. In my experience any pipemaker of any repute has people lining up at the door waiting to get a set, and that those that have sets 'on the shelf' might look pretty but are rarely the business....

I too wondered why Alan Ginsberg's brother is selling pipes on eBay.
Some use it as a means of cheap advertising.
It's accepted practice for pipemakers to have 'extra sets' on hand to sell when displaying their wares at Tionols... always a reason to bring your checkbook along.

beckitybek · Post by **beckitybek** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:09 am

benwalker wrote:What sort of price do the Spanish Pipes you mention go for?

I think Music Room Traditional Music shop in Cleckheaton have one for about £900 (eeeek!)

benwalker · Post by **benwalker** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:58 am

Practice set? £900. Thats a lot of dosh!

beckitybek · Post by **beckitybek** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:02 am

benwalker wrote:Practice set? £900. Thats a lot of dosh!

I know!!! I was trying them out when they told me the price! I hastily put them (very carefully) back in the case

beckitybek · Post by **beckitybek** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:04 am

always a reason to bring your checkbook along.[/quote]

.......or to leave it at home depending on its thickness

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:15 am

I take my pipes, just in case I want to swap them or sell them....... :roll:

Alan

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:55 am

If I can, I like to bring along someone elses checkbook, money order or cash...one never knows when a good deal can pop up.

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:30 am

Joseph E. Smith wrote:If I can, I like to bring along someone elses checkbook, money order or cash...one never knows when a good deal can pop up.

Lorenzo · Post by **Lorenzo** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:53 am

I see the same seller has now listed a refurbished ½ set in D by Ginsberg

No need to post all the pictures...follow this link.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:27 pm

The seller is his brother(???????). Seems strange that mr Ginsberg, a retired teacher, with a web site, needs his "brother" to advertise on ebay for him?
He`s the only pipe maker i`m aware of who has several full sets available at any one time, ready for dispatch at a moments notice. He also has 1/2 a dozen half sets and dozens of practise sets on his shelves.
I`ve seen several of his sets and they range from o.k. to naff but maybe i`ve only seen the bad ones?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3738392464

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:32 am

I don't think there is anything wrong with either selling sets on E Bay or having a stock of sets for sale......or having someone else look after yer website,could be simply that he is not good with computers?

I just think his sets were wrang!!!!!

That admittedly is only based on my obs of 2 of his sets and that was some years back,so maybe he did get the tuning right on the chanter and regs! I hope so.

Perhaps some o ye out there might be playing his stuff and might be quite happy if so pipe up.I did ask a while back" what did they sound like?"

Uilliam

elbogo · Post by **elbogo** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:34 am

Well, seems the set went for $2000... really low price!

Steve Pribyl · Post by **Steve Pribyl** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:04 am

Actually, it went for 2000 GBP, or $3565 US.

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