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Tuning drones in a noisy room
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Now that's interesting.Calum wrote:I've used someting like this before with reasonable success - not on Uilleann drones but I imagine the principle is the same.
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Yes, a clip-on contact mike works. That assumes you have a tuner that will accept an external input. And since, PJ, you mentioned only your clip-on guitar tuner, I assumed that's not the case and that you're tuning by ear. If you do have a regular tuner, you might be able to position it near enough the drones to work even in a noisy room.PJ wrote:Now that's interesting.
Actually, a guitar clip-on ought to open wide enough to fit on some part of the drones; I know mine does. The problem with this (or a contact mike) is that the secondary tube vibration may not be strong enough, since it's really the air column that's sounding. But it's worth a try. I sometimes tune my D or C whistle with a clip-on, much to the amusement of others (it looks quite strange).
Of course, Michael Loos' suggestion makes sense, too. The tuning ritual is a natural part of the performance - unless you have to start cold on the first note, e.g. for a bridal procession or similar situation.
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I did some looking, but nada. The method is catching on, though; will this guy do?Cathy Wilde wrote:!!!! Now where the heck did I put my perky pink hat?Thomas Wiedemeier wrote:Ah, that was you, the piping Lady!Cathy Wilde wrote: but when I put them over my right shoulder they're right next to my ear,
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I think this was the original thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25763Nanohedron wrote:I did some looking, but nada.Cathy Wilde wrote:Does anyone still have that photo? We should make a sticky of it. Piping Lady should be the board avatar.
But the off-site photos are long gone. OTOH, I'm sure I saved a copy somewhere ...
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Vivat diabolus in musica! MTGuru's (old) GG Clips / Blackbird Clips
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Re: Tuning drones in a noisy room
PJ,when I was playing in a highland pipe band we used Korg ca-30 tuners with a Korg cm-100 mike plugged into the tuner and clipped to the drones.I've never tried it on the uilleanns,
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Re contact mics vs clip-on tuners - I think the latter are optimised for string instruments and while they're OK, I find the contact mic plus tuner works far better (IMO better than into the tuner's mic).
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I use a Snark.
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I've found that the Snark works really nicely on the chanter but I've never gotten it to work well on my drones. Any tips on that?
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Re: Tuning drones in a noisy room
My answer is usually enough swearing to do a Quentin Tarantino movie proud.
"How the f*** am I supposed to tune these f***ing with all this motherf***ing noise and I can't hear a f***ing thing! I'll just not f***ing play them. It's what the f***ing "off" switch is for!"
"How the f*** am I supposed to tune these f***ing with all this motherf***ing noise and I can't hear a f***ing thing! I'll just not f***ing play them. It's what the f***ing "off" switch is for!"
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Thank you!
And just to report ... I used the Bag Lady OTS ("BLOTS"? ) method just yesterday for last-minute drone-check at an Easter Sunday service, and it worked. In fact, I think it was the only option, since the PA was blasting loud inspirational music right up until the service started throughout the entire downstairs of the church. I don't think my tuner would have functioned, although I did use it when I first warmed up about a half-hour before.
But blast it, I sure missed my pink hat.
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Re: Tuning drones in a noisy room
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