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Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:49 am
by Jäger
I did a search but nothing quite matched what I was looking for, and the closest match was six years dead.

Anyhow, I've just started to get a bit more serious about flute playing, and I was wondering if anyone could point me to a list of the different regional styles of flute playing, their characteristics and prominent players? I'm starting to find my way around the flute, but right now I'm just drifting with no goal in sight, so I thought I'd listen to as much varied styles of playing as possible to help find myself as a flute player, see what type of playing really excites me the most. That speaks most directly to me, if you will.

Cheers

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:00 am
by kkrell

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:02 am
by Denny

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:20 am
by kkrell
bedtime, Denny.

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:39 pm
by Denny
I remember a distant time when they were the same thing.... far distant :D

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:26 pm
by jemtheflute
Denny wrote:I remember a distant time when they were the same thing.... far distant :D
Are you quite sure about that, Denny? The remembering bit?
Could be that flippantly frequenting the nether regions of too many worm-cans has.... taken its toll?
Hey, fancy meeting you here! :D

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:54 pm
by smoro
Matt Molloy said once: "There is two styles, people that play well and people that don´t"
S.

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:58 pm
by Denny
jemtheflute wrote:
Denny wrote:I remember a distant time when they were the same thing.... far distant :D
Are you quite sure about that, Denny? The remembering bit?
Could be that flippantly frequenting the nether regions of too many worm-cans has.... taken its toll?
Hey, fancy meeting you here! :D
sure I remember, it was the late '60s :tomato:

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:13 am
by crickett
I think the Wooden Flute Obsession CDs are great for seeing what type of playing really excites you. If you don't have any of those, I would recommend picking one or two up.

The site already mentioned by Kevin is a good place to start if you are interested in regional styles. This may also help, though it is broader than flute: http://www.rocheviolins.com/html/tradit ... music.html
That page also has a link to some videos about regional styles (also broader than flute).

I am no expert and so I cannot vouch for the information on the site. But I thought it might be helpful to you in any event.

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:46 am
by FascinatedWanderer

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:18 am
by dow

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:31 pm
by Akiba
I'm no scholar, but I've thought of and seen these folks written up as "Roscommon" fluters:

Matt Molloy
Kevin Crawford
John Wynne
Michael McGoldrick

While these folks I associate more with the Northern Irish style:

Harry Bradley
Conal O'Grada

I certainly sounds to me like those two groups make up two distinct styles and seem most prevalent to me on CD's and in good players I've heard live.

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:35 pm
by benhall.1
I don't actually hold much stock in the idea that there are 'regional' styles. I think there are styles established by a very small number of people, that sometimes get associated with the areas they come from. Conal (who may be along any minute) is from Cork, isn't he?

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:49 pm
by Akiba
Yes, no doubt I may be totally wrong in placing O'Grada in "Northern Ireland", but his style does similar to Harry's. I'm mostly exposing my thoughts on the subject to be either confirmed or corrected. I'd really like to know. In the article sighted above, the author puts Harry in the "Sligo" style category, but he's not from Sligo, so I have no idea what's what. Perhaps this categorizing thing by regional style is fruitless and futile.

Re: Regional styles and representative players

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:01 pm
by gorjuswrex
I just googled 'open and closed piping style'. Didn't get much but this bit from Nial Keegan could be useful to you.
http://www.inbhear.ie/volume-1/n-keegan ... -menu.html
I have to say trying to explain styles works with with words alone doesn’t work well for me. There are some sound tracks though which help a lot.

Something that helps a lot is to gather recordings of different players playing the same tune and listen to them in close succession. Hear the different phrasing, variations, tone attack, speed, note lengths etc. I’d recommend doing this solely with flute and maybe whistle players. Then, maybe, separately with players of other instruments. Solo (or close to) recordings are easier to discern styles with generally. I'd say regional styles tend to be most apparent on fiddle so include this.