Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

The Chiff & Fipple Irish Flute on-line community. Sideblown for your protection.
User avatar
LorenzoFlute
Posts: 2103
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:46 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: Berlin, Germany

Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by LorenzoFlute »

Some flutes respond better then others to pushing and overblowing. I'd like to know which ones like this particular approach. I've tried an Olwell and it seems to respond to it very well. Murrays also have this reputation (but i've never tried one). Others?
Antique 6 key French flute for sale: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102436

youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LorenzoFlute
User avatar
radcliff
Posts: 852
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:56 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: in two words, Rudall & Rose. but since a minimum of 100 characters is required, I should list a number of makers I found extremely interesting… I don't even know how much are 100 characters...
Location: Somewhere over the Rainbow (Rome)

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by radcliff »

thinking about the best players that are used to overblow.... maybe an Hammy's flute could be a good answer? ;-)
User avatar
LorenzoFlute
Posts: 2103
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:46 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: Berlin, Germany

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by LorenzoFlute »

radcliffe, you're not going to answer my PM, are you? :sniffle:
Antique 6 key French flute for sale: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102436

youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LorenzoFlute
User avatar
Akiba
Posts: 1189
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:09 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: I am an Irish flute player and whistler. I have been a member since 2007? This has been one of the most informative sites on Irish flute I have found.
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Contact:

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by Akiba »

I think it has more to do with the player than with the flute. Many players in my neck of the woods play Grinters, many of whom overblow for that very edgy, cutting, overtone-laden tone, while one of the best players plays his Grinter with a more rounded, melodic style. I've heard a similar overblown tone from a fluter who plays an Olwell. I play with a rounded, melodic tone on whatever flute I play.
User avatar
LorenzoFlute
Posts: 2103
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:46 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: Berlin, Germany

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by LorenzoFlute »

For sure is more the player than the flute, but (again) some flutes respond better than others to overblowing. I play a keyed Lehart, a very nice flute, and I naturally tend to overblow, but I can feel that he (my flute) is not comfortable with my approach, he prefers to be played with a rounded and melodic tone. I still overblow it when I can though, because I like to...
Antique 6 key French flute for sale: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102436

youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LorenzoFlute
User avatar
Akiba
Posts: 1189
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:09 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: I am an Irish flute player and whistler. I have been a member since 2007? This has been one of the most informative sites on Irish flute I have found.
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Contact:

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by Akiba »

Fair enough, Oth. My Casey Burns flute is definitely on the mellow side, though I push it to get more of an edge. My M&E is edgy, so I try for a more mellow tone. But is the characteristic of the flute's tone directly related to whether it's better for overblowing or not? I'm not so sure.
User avatar
talasiga
Posts: 5199
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:33 am
antispam: No
Location: Eastern Australia

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by talasiga »

Othannen wrote: .......he (my flute) is not comfortable with my approach ...
flutes are feminine
qui jure suo utitur neminem laedit
User avatar
Sillydill
Posts: 964
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:33 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Edge of Misery (Missouri) KC area

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by Sillydill »

Hey Lorenzo,

Of all the flutes I've tried, Marcus Hernon's Rudall would be the one that had to be played with lazor lips! :lol:

Olwells will not faulter when played hard, but they don't demand to be played that way. The first Hernon Rudall I had (I've had another since) produced a truely wonderful tone and had good tuning. But only when I would play it full blast, just as hard as I could! That was when I had only been playing for ~1-year, so I might find that flute more amiable now (after 7+ years).

I sold the first Hernon because I didn't want to always blast while playing. But I missed the wonderful tone, so a year or two later I got another Hernon that was not nearly as good, though it was easier to play.

Happy Hunting! :D
Keep on Tootin!

Jordan
User avatar
LorenzoFlute
Posts: 2103
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:46 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: Berlin, Germany

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by LorenzoFlute »

talasiga wrote:
Othannen wrote: .......he (my flute) is not comfortable with my approach ...
flutes are feminine
Really? In italian they are masculine...
Antique 6 key French flute for sale: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102436

youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LorenzoFlute
User avatar
Denny
Posts: 24005
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:29 am
antispam: No
Location: N of Seattle

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by Denny »

he is way southeast of Italy :shock:
Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
It's dizzying, the possibilities. Ashes, Ashes all fall down.
User avatar
radcliff
Posts: 852
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:56 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: in two words, Rudall & Rose. but since a minimum of 100 characters is required, I should list a number of makers I found extremely interesting… I don't even know how much are 100 characters...
Location: Somewhere over the Rainbow (Rome)

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by radcliff »

Yes, Lory, and the moon is a He, while the Cuckoo is a SHE...
and I still have a lot of difficulties at refering to my flute as a she...

BTW back to the original topic's question...
check this video (a very nice one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuVWT_r- ... re=related
and get some possible advices.... ;-)
User avatar
LorenzoFlute
Posts: 2103
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:46 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: Berlin, Germany

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by LorenzoFlute »

Well I knew already that Murrays are good for forceful playing, but I have no intention to order one, given what people say about the maker...!
Antique 6 key French flute for sale: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102436

youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LorenzoFlute
User avatar
talasiga
Posts: 5199
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:33 am
antispam: No
Location: Eastern Australia

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by talasiga »

la flute de la lune
feminine/ feminine

therefore, I say,
do not push the flute
qui jure suo utitur neminem laedit
User avatar
m31
Posts: 392
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:21 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: ...next door to the Milky Way...

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by m31 »

User avatar
m31
Posts: 392
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:21 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: ...next door to the Milky Way...

Re: Which flutes like to be pushed/overblown?

Post by m31 »

Post Reply