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FS: antique 12 key flute by Hans Kreul - with video

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Hi all,
this is the second flute of this type I have for sale, and it shares lots of similarities with the first one.

It was made in Germany in early to mid 20th century, marked “PUSTOPHON / HANS KREUL / TUBINGEN”, serial “16084”. The company is still active today (http://www.kreul.de), making high end clarinets, saxophones and flutes.
It’s a Schwedler type, 1895 model (http://www.oldflutes.com/articles/schwedler.htm), with 12 nickel silver keys plus the so called “brille” on the top two tone holes, whose function is to bring in tune the high C# without flattening the cross fingered C . This “brille” works automatically when you play, no change of fingering from the normal simple system is required.

The keys are the 8 standard ones plus a right-hand touch for Bb, a second G# (to press with the left thumb), the E trill (I think), and the low B on the footjoint.

I’m quite certain the wooden body is made of Grenadilla blackwood. The metal headjoint has an ebonite lip plate with what today is called “wing embouchure”, that was introduced in 1904 by Otto Mönnig (he called it “reform embouchure”), it became quite popular with Boehm flutes at the time.

It had a thin crack on the wooden socket, I’ve pinned it, glued it and reinforced the socket with carbon fibre. It should be super stable now and almost invisible.
Pads were in good conditions and after some treatment and repositioning they seal well. Corks are also original and in good shape.

It was possibly (but not necessarily) built with a slightly lower than modern pitch in mind (A=435hz?), but it plays in very good tuning at modern pitch of A=440hz with the tuning slide opened around 5mm (it used to be around 3mm but I shortened the metal barrel and slide just a couple of mm to allow some extra room for tuning sharp, just in case).

This flute has a great strong tone. The resonance and clarity given by the metal headjoint mixes in an interesting way with the character given by the conical wooden body. Compared to the other Schwedler I sold, it sounds mellower and less open, with a more complex reedy sound. I believe this is entirely due to the shape of the embouchure hole, which has a more traditional ellipse on this flute, while on the other one it was closer to a rounded rectangle. The “sweet spot” is less easy to find, but in my opinion you get a nicer sound and more tonal possibilities.

But they do share the same main qualities, so here I quote myself:
“Think of a Pratten type, but with a brighter, less wide but more penetrating sound. I would imagine this is about as loud as a flute with medium-small hole can be. It’s very responsive with very solid low notes, great foot notes and banging low D, which is a feature of Schwedler’s bore design. I don’t use the third octave much but the few notes I can finger up there are particularly clear and easy to sound compared to pretty much all other simple system flutes I’ve played. The “brille” is not so noticeable when you play, it’s very easy to get used to it.”

The keys work great. I would personally like to be able to turn the footjoint more towards the player, but the right hand joint and the footjoint are in one piece. Still, the low notes sound easy and strong, even low B is really nice!

It comes with its original deluxe case, which is in great conditions: sturdy, velvet lined, probably original cork grease container (with old cork grease inside, I would change it to a fresh one but you can also use it, at your own risk...!). The closing mechanism is moderately hard to open, but it closes well.

Asking price is 880 euros which includes shipping.

Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2aNRTN0Tg

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On Ebay: http://www.ebay.it/itm/-/272077712678?
I will still accept to sell it off ebay for 880 euros if still available :)
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Still available on ebay: http://www.ebay.it/itm/-/272094931589?
Off ebay price is 820 euro shipping included
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How do you like that winglip headjoint? I have a modern Muramatsu Boehm with a similar headjoint and I love it. I though it might be beneficial to the traditional Irish style. I didn't know the ide was around so long.
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I think the wings make the tone a bit "sharper" (not in pitch) and more responsive. I personally prefer to sacrifice a bit of responsiveness for a sightly rounder tone, but they work well on some types of flute (such as this one) and many people would surely find it comfortable for easier tone production.
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Not sure how the price went so low, this is a great sounding fully keyed flute. Now available for only 620 euro + shipping, a steal: http://www.ebay.it/itm/272156521125?ssP ... 1558.l2649
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I'd be interested! Not sure how to contact you (this is my first post, for one thing). Is there a way to send you my email address privately?
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Sold!
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Bravo!
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Sorry, just to be clear, it has been sold?
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matthew.christian wrote:Sorry, just to be clear, it has been sold?
Hello, yes it´s sold.
I often have restored antique flutes available though. At the moment I have another flute just like this one but at low pitch of 435hz (price will be accordingly cheaper, about 400 euros) that is almost ready.
I also have two French flutes, one with 6 keys and one with one key (http://www.ebay.it/itm/272156522749?ssP ... 1558.l2649), sound is more delicate so not ideal for loud sessions. Let me know if you would like to have more details on any of the flutes I mentioned.
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I've seen and played one of these. The one I tried was a fantastic player. Someone got a bargain I would say.
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I'm the one who snatched it up! Just got it in the mail today, beautiful flute in great shape, and plays really well. It's my first keyed flute, and I'm starting to try to get the hang of the keys, but even without them, it's got good tone, good volume, and is quite responsive.
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