Cliffs of moher and F natural
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Oh, that's gorgeous Peter. though no question about an F natural there at all. And wow, another reminder of how settings move around.
I have several of Joe Bane's settings of tunes -- his Sporting Nell in particular is so elegant -- is this the same school of thinking? Ah, to spend a lifetime inside these guys' ears.
I have several of Joe Bane's settings of tunes -- his Sporting Nell in particular is so elegant -- is this the same school of thinking? Ah, to spend a lifetime inside these guys' ears.
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It is essentially a pentatonic version I suppose but the tune moves around the e's in a similar way. I played rolls, ege or Bee and you could do all of these in the other version. Just as some people might be tempted to put an f nat in this version.Cathy Wilde wrote:no question about an F natural there at all.
It is a matter of aesthetics. And it is something I have thought about long and hard. I really think the f nat stands out like a sore thumb in that particular spot in that particular tune. Same for the first part of Banish Misfortune which I already mentioned or the first part of Garret Barry's for that matter.
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Yeah, that was my point, earlier on. There are lots of unique and lovely tune arrangements that work really well if played solo, or arranged with other players... maybe even in an intimate session, among friends. But I wouldn't spring these variants on strangers!Flutered wrote:Yes, that's a lovely version Peter ... have to pick that up but not much use playing it that way in our local session!!
Still not convinced the Cliffs of Moher ever needs an F nat, even on a good day... This tune (and others) have held up pretty well as is, and often just lose magic with these somewhat arbitrary changes, rather than adding something good..
That is why I asked. Since I heard it first with F nat I thought maybe that was one of those things that made the tune what it is, not something added to show off. Later when I heard it with a plain old F#, the tune seemed kind of boring. Now I know the truth and I'll be able to play it boring with my head held high that I'm not doing something wrong like playing a beginner version or something like that.Gordon wrote:Flutered wrote: Still not convinced the Cliffs of Moher ever needs an F nat, even on a good day... This tune (and others) have held up pretty well as is, and often just lose magic with these somewhat arbitrary changes, rather than adding something good..
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Well an f# just there is indeed kind of boring. I would play ege instead, or occasionally drop down with eBe.sbfluter wrote:Later when I heard it with a plain old F#, the tune seemed kind of boring. Now I know the truth and I'll be able to play it boring with my head held high that I'm not doing something wrong like playing a beginner version or something like that.
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Eh!, I don't think you can attribute the above to me!! although I might be inclined to agree. Might have been Peter Laban? That's the trouble with all those nested quotes - get you tied up in knots.sbfluter wrote:Gordon wrote:Flutered wrote: Still not convinced the Cliffs of Moher ever needs an F nat, even on a good day... This tune (and others) have held up pretty well as is, and often just lose magic with these somewhat arbitrary changes, rather than adding something good..
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Along the lines of version exploration, here's a niiiice setting (it's the second jig)!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_cc43qWvcY
(thanks, Steve & TJ!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_cc43qWvcY
(thanks, Steve & TJ!)
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Here's another. Again, it's the second tune in the set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBONRwNY77c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBONRwNY77c
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