Suggestions for irish flute music played in jazzy style?

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Suggestions for irish flute music played in jazzy style?

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Hi all,

Posted a similar post in the ITM forum also.

I’m looking for folk music (not only irish) played in a jazzy style.

Or folk music played with interesting chords, something like Flook, Micheal McGoldrick, ecc.

Any suggestion should be very appreciated, thanks!
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Niall Keegan comes to mind seems like music Scotland is the only place to get his Don't Touch the Elk album.

Sylvain Barou would be another player to listen to.
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Yep, Niall Keegan. A taste here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqfw3tD2Zk
On his CD, and the track on Wooden Flute Obsession, (3:29 Reels) Dunmore Lasses/My Love is in America takes you on a wild ride.
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This question has been asked many times before
and I usually recoil from the lameness of the examples
put forth as "jazz" or (please don't let me wretch) "jazzy".
Traditional Irish, Scottish or what have you players noodling
around bending their notes, playing pentatonic, pentatonic minor
and whole note scales is not jazz. It might be masterfully conceived
and virtuosically played but it ain't jazz,
This is the only recording that I've ever heard that meets any part of
the description. Not because of the melody players who are fabulous,
but the rhythm section who are in fact dyed in the wool jazz players.
So here it is. Traditional Irish music (mostly) with jazz accompaniment
played by real jazz players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9bQ7Nr ... o6&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayrqDiq ... _iSEaJAMo6

p.s.
Regina Carter who plays violin on some
of these cuts isn't really a jazz player either.
She's a classically trained violinist that plays
the above mentioned scales and calls it jazz.
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Don't forget Cormac Breatnach. His groups Meristem and Deiseal were very "jazzy." The problem with fusion of Jazz and Irish Trad is the absence of what us Jazzbos call the "blue notes." Chromatic instruments are pretty much essential to jazz. The basic chord progressions in jazz (blues, rhythm changes, etc.) all require maj and min 7th chords/scales played in progressions. The modal character of Irish trad and the chromatic nature of jazz are kind of like oil and water. I love both genres, play both genres, but keep them separate. Just my opinion.
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Hack with a Flute wrote:Don't forget Cormac Breatnach. His groups Meristem and Deiseal were very "jazzy." The problem with fusion of Jazz and Irish Trad is the absence of what us Jazzbos call the "blue notes." Chromatic instruments are pretty much essential to jazz. The basic chord progressions in jazz (blues, rhythm changes, etc.) all require maj and min 7th chords/scales played in progressions. The modal character of Irish trad and the chromatic nature of jazz are kind of like oil and water. I love both genres, play both genres, but keep them separate. Just my opinion.
There's plenty of blue notes in Irish music particularly in piping.
But the chromatic approach is lacking and that's part of its charm
for me. The modal part is where they meet. But as you say, keep em separate.
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oleorezinator wrote:This question has been asked many times before
and I usually recoil from the lameness of the examples
put forth as "jazz" or (please don't let me wretch) "jazzy".
Traditional Irish, Scottish or what have you players noodling
around bending their notes, playing pentatonic, pentatonic minor
and whole note scales is not jazz. It might be masterfully conceived
and virtuosically played but it ain't jazz,
This is the only recording that I've ever heard that meets any part of
the description. Not because of the melody players who are fabulous,
but the rhythm section who are in fact dyed in the wool jazz players.
So here it is. Traditional Irish music (mostly) with jazz accompaniment
played by real jazz players.
Agree with you oleorezinator, perhaps I have to refine better my request.

There are many musicians or groups who use very interesting chords in their music, a lot of major seventh, ninth and chords substitutions. I’m interested in this music. Some example are in tunes by Flook, Mike McGoldrick and Cormac Breatnach (as suggested above).
This is not jazz, it’s true, but usually there is a sort of “swing” in this music and I don’t know how to name this kind of music…

I liked a lot the your links to the Celtic Jazz Collective, thank you.
Sorry for my bad english...
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Unseen122 and kkrell, great suggestions, thank you!

Hack with a Flute, yes I know Cormac Breatnach and i like it A LOT!
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Here goes a bit of the stuff I usually listen to, sort of "crossroads" music, not only Irish:

Fraser Fifield
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwgW1jJ4NiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d79_DJP5XEw

Neil Yates, Five Countries is fabulous
https://youtu.be/y2KMC02WeE4

Check also Philippe Barnes's Madrid Sessions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ0TEHgLlf0

Halton Quartet (Angus Lyon & Ruaridh Campbell 18 months later is great too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iukm5A8d5NQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzzGhUbbpg

Chris Stout & Catriona McKay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KbeymJS9EU
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Our irish music blog in Spanish: https://theirishflow.com/
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This is jazzy but not folksy, but it sounds very good on the Irish flute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKSshWWfyfk
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Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet

https://www.allaboutjazz.com/the-penny- ... ?width=768
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Maeloc wrote:Here goes a bit of the stuff I usually listen to, sort of "crossroads" music, not only Irish:

Fraser Fifield
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwgW1jJ4NiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d79_DJP5XEw

Neil Yates, Five Countries is fabulous
https://youtu.be/y2KMC02WeE4

Check also Philippe Barnes's Madrid Sessions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ0TEHgLlf0

Halton Quartet (Angus Lyon & Ruaridh Campbell 18 months later is great too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iukm5A8d5NQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzzGhUbbpg

Chris Stout & Catriona McKay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KbeymJS9EU
Thanks Maeloc, I've found the Halton Quartet album on Spotify, some very beautiful tunes here!
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