Flute to get started with

[Nanohedron]

I'm of the opinion that if you're going to leave an instrument in your car during adverse temperatures, you deserve what you get.

[jemtheflute]

I really wouldn't worry about getting a "quiet" flute. It is very easy to play any flute very quietly. It's rather harder to play one loud consistently and well, so having an instrument which doesn't want to go loud is an unhelpful hindrance to learning. Working at playing quietly is very good for embouchure and breath control and will set you up well for the occasions when you are at liberty to play at full blast. That said, no flute is particularly loud by comparison with most other instruments, save that the upper registers are more piercing (even played gently!), but you won't be going there much as a beginner.

You're loud enough yourself, and you and others can certainly hold your own in almost any session situation.

Yeah, but I'm/we're usually trying to play loud in sessions.
It is really easy to play a flute quietly at home so as not to wake the neighbours, though of course that's a limitation on what/how you can practice. And the low register of the flute does not carry or penetrate at all well, even played quite loudly. By comparison with a beginner (or even an advanced player who is a persistent practicer) on say sax or a trumpet or even a fiddle, a beginner fluter is unlikely to be a particularly irritating or even especially noticeable neighbour.

[benhall.1]

I really wouldn't worry about getting a "quiet" flute. It is very easy to play any flute very quietly. It's rather harder to play one loud consistently and well, so having an instrument which doesn't want to go loud is an unhelpful hindrance to learning. Working at playing quietly is very good for embouchure and breath control and will set you up well for the occasions when you are at liberty to play at full blast. That said, no flute is particularly loud by comparison with most other instruments, save that the upper registers are more piercing (even played gently!), but you won't be going there much as a beginner.

You're loud enough yourself, and you and others can certainly hold your own in almost any session situation.

Yeah, but I'm/we're usually trying to play loud in sessions.
It is really easy to play a flute quietly at home so as not to wake the neighbours, though of course that's a limitation on what/how you can practice. And the low register of the flute does not carry or penetrate at all well, even played quite loudly. By comparison with a beginner (or even an advanced player who is a persisitent practicer) on say sax or a trumpet or even a fiddle, a beginner fluter is unlikely to be a particularly irritating or even especially noticeable neighbour.

Don't disagree with your later comments. I was responding to your comment that "no flute is particularly loud by comparison with most other instruments". I think that statement goes too far. Your flute, played by you, can blast a poor fiddle player outta th' ession water!

[jemtheflute]

Your flute, played by you, can blast a poor fiddle player outta th' ession water!

Hah! I might wish! And no chance against a good one.

[Luck Adversa]

Right now I'm in touch with Francois Baubet, Copley and Forbes, I m not sure what to get, can you give me some feedback? For what I know they all are amazing makers, the main difference seems to be the waiting time, 6 weeks Copley and Forbes and 2 to 4 for Baubet which is not much time. About the loudness of the I strument for what I read they all are loud anyway so what I care about is the sound. The fact is, they all sound extremely well and I love them all. I prefer the one with the foot joint. It may be sound stupid but that little weight is something I like.
Anyway I asked Copley if it's possible to have a model just like the wooden one. Baubet standard model is this way, Forbes is 3 piece with no foot.
Now, what are your experiences, what do you think is the one that sounds the best?
(Copley costs around 700 euro, Baubet around 400, same for forbes. Price is not a problem but I was considering ordering both Forbes and Baubet...I think I might not do like they are tin whistles because t's just not good..)

[Steve Bliven]

Now, what are your experiences, what do you think is the one that sounds the best?
(Copley costs around 700 euro, Baubet around 400, same for forbes. Price is not a problem but I was considering ordering both Forbes and Baubet...I think I might not do like they are tin whistles because t's just not good..)

If put to a vote, I'd go for the Baubet. He's had great reviews, he's in Ireland so shipping and import costs should be less and he's easier to get back to if you ever need to. If it's your first flute, just get one and learn to play the heck out of it. By the time you find out whether it's the perfect one for you long-term, you'll have a much better idea of what you're looking for.

Them's my thoughts.

Best wishes.

Steve

Added later: You wouldn't go wrong with any of the flutes you're looking at and it probably doesn't really matter, it being your first flute and all. Just pick one and learn to play. Any of them will get you most of your money back if/when you decide to sell.

[Jayhawk]

I am 100% with Steve. Baubet, stick with one flute, pls the h@ll out of it.

Eric

[Peter Duggan]

Much as I adore my Copleys, I'd be tempted by Baubet too for you. I found the low D on the only Baubet I've tried quite tricky to blow, but my friend whose flute it was had no problems at all with it and they're quite simply another great-sounding flute with a fast-growing reputation. Since it's already in Europe at a lower price (is it really that much cheaper?), what more could you ask? Sure I'd have discussed my needs with Francois Baubet if I hadn't already got such a terrific response from Dave Copley, but you just want a flute and you're looking at three great makers. Also agree with the others and say just get the one just now... which is your choice, but you just don't want to be chopping and changing embouchures while you're trying to develop one for the first time.

[Luck Adversa]

Yes indeed. Actually the shipping price is the same..around 15-20 euro in europe around 25-30 dollars from states.
Anyway I am waiting the last answer from Baubet and I will buy his one
Thank you guys, I really appreciated your help!