R&R #1 ?

[MarkP]

serial number '1'...with Boehm system pillar mounts, roller key and patent head

http://www.antiqueflutes.com/cgi-bin/ca ... i?snum=753

[benhall.1]

I can't be bothered to find the other old threads. I expect there are about a dozen of them. Someone better than me can probably find them and link to them.

[MarkP]

oops, not paying attention at the back of the class

[RudallRose]

RR kept separate serial number systems for the different flutes.
So the Boehm flutes carried on a wholly different sequence than the 8key flutes (which were not all 8key)....and the Radcliffe's another, as well as the Carte system, etc etc etc.

The earliest known original Rudall & Rose flute is one I have, possibly number 3 but that's subject to how you view it under the optic. Could be "checking" of the wood.

It is an ebony flute ... not cocus ... with Ivory foot cap and crown.....and square flat sterling keys, distinctively like the flutes of John Mitchell Rose of that time frame, c.1821.

There are 3 flutes extant that I've catalogued from the 7. Tavistock address, none with a serial number....but the other two are boxwood and cocus respectively.

[tucson_whistler]

i love the endcap

http://www.antiqueflutes.com/web%20phot ... 753.10.jpg

David, if you ever want to post photos...

cheers,
eric

[RudallRose]

indeed
but that's the crown of a Patent Head.
Lovely thing, isn't it?

[tucson_whistler]

isn't that what they put on the end of the flute? M&E does something similar. and the little screws are the weird thing that is supposed to adjust the slide and the cork at the same time?

no?

cheers,
eric

[Rob Sharer]

The lion's like, "So I'm wearing a wig! Wanna make something of it?"....

R




Fixed.

[Denny]

dude, you are so excessive!

[kkrell]

isn't that what they put on the end of the flute? M&E does something similar. and the little screws are the weird thing that is supposed to adjust the slide and the cork at the same time?

no?

cheers,
eric

No.

M&E has an imitation pattern of the Rudall Patent Head end cap. Most Rudall's would not have them. A couple of non-Patent Head end caps might have the metal sheath, without the screws. As to the operation of the Patent Head, no, not via the screws, but by rotating the cap itself. See http://mcgee-flutes.com/patent.html for an explanation of the workings.

Kevin Krell

[tucson_whistler]

i guess i should have said, "the little screws indicate the weird thing that is supposed to adjust the slide and cork at the same time."



anyway, thanks for the link. i should spend more time poking around Mr. Mcgee's site...

i'm having fun poking around this new one though. there are photos of a gorgeous Richard Potter boxwood...

http://www.antiqueflutes.com/web%20phot ... 3.full.jpg

cheers,
eric

[RudallRose]

David and Nina shorey are tops in the antique flute world.
David for years was curator of the Dayton Miller collection in Washington.
My first flute came from Nina....a lovely keyed boxwood Monzani.
They lived in Amsterdam for a long time, then over to Los angeles because of the musical pursuits of their son, a guitarist, who apparently was quite talented.

anyways, David and Nina got back into the "biz" and have remained concentrated on some very very high end flutes, Laurents being their particular sphere of expertise, though just about any flutes fit into that sphere for them. They're wonderful people and David has some of the most stunning artistic photos of flutes anyone has ever done.

I've some old catalogues of theirs from the 1990s and they're very cool.

[radcliff]

You didn't mention that Nina is also a great flute restorer! She really care for dectails!
both are lovely persons! I met them at the Barga Fest, another worthy reason to be there!

[RudallRose]

My first flute came from Nina....

i thought i handled that bit with this line.....

but no matter.....yes, Nina is a top-notch restorer with a fantanstic sense of helpfulness that can't be beat. She still asks me about that first flute.

dm