A New Horizon for Phoenix

Innocent Bystander · Post by **Innocent Bystander** » Mon May 26, 2008 3:09 am

Phoenix landed in my back garden?

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Mon May 26, 2008 3:49 am

Innocent Bystander wrote:Phoenix landed in my back garden?

So you live in California?

(Seriously, there are areas nearby here which look very much like that.)

djm · Post by **djm** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:03 am

So, the Phoenix is a bird that lives, dies in a ball of flame, and then arises reborn from its own ashes. What happens if the wind blows the ashes away? These are the sort of things that occupy a great deal of my thoughts.

djm

Innocent Bystander · Post by **Innocent Bystander** » Mon May 26, 2008 3:39 pm

MTGuru wrote:
Innocent Bystander wrote:Phoenix landed in my back garden?
So you live in California?

(Seriously, there are areas nearby here which look very much like that.)

Possibly there are more than a few places on Earth that look not so different from that picture.

fruladog · Post by **fruladog** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:58 pm

MTGuru wrote: (Seriously, there are areas nearby here which look very much like that.)

... which goes to prove we never made it to the Moon. These digital conspiracies are much more convincing than the analog Moon landings.

fel bautista · Post by **fel bautista** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:35 pm

Actually it landed in Spain

I haven't looked but does NASA have the feed up so you can see psuedo real time?

edited: I just looked and yes they do

Post by **Dale** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:34 pm

These are great.

You know, something that really fascinates me is the possibility of a manned mission to Mars. I'm interested in what obstacles would have to be overcome to get people there alive and bring them back. Not the least of which is the LONG, LONG round trip in what would, out of necessity, have to be a pretty tight space. How to best spin the thing to create a little artificial gravity to keep people reasonably healthy and fit. How to deal with the psychological/sociological problems. Tight, tight living with others. Boredom. The knowledge that the odds of not making it are huge. The paradox of moving at an incredible speed but having it feel and look like you're just hanging in space. I wonder if it'll ever happen.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:50 pm

How long would it take?

I think there are now thought to be serious radiation
problems in outer space, by the way.

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:51 pm

Launch Date: Aug. 4, 2007

'bout a very long pregnancy

Post by **Dale** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:09 pm

That's what I understand, a year, maybe a little less to get there. Several months mission on the planet. A year to get back. A lot of unmanned missions first to install hardware and supplies.

Post by **Dale** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:11 pm

One proposal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Direct

Lambchop · Post by **Lambchop** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:16 pm

Dale wrote:These are great.

You know, something that really fascinates me is the possibility of a manned mission to Mars. I'm interested in what obstacles would have to be overcome to get people there alive and bring them back. Not the least of which is the LONG, LONG round trip in what would, out of necessity, have to be a pretty tight space. How to best spin the thing to create a little artificial gravity to keep people reasonably healthy and fit. How to deal with the psychological/sociological problems. Tight, tight living with others. Boredom. The knowledge that the odds of not making it are huge. The paradox of moving at an incredible speed but having it feel and look like you're just hanging in space. I wonder if it'll ever happen.

Oh, dear. Just reading that gave me an anxiety attack. I'm sitting here nauseous, flushed, and trying desperately to suppress some really vivid claustrophobic OH MY GOD! I'M TRAPPED IN THIS BOX AND I CAN'T GET OUT! feelings.

Thanks, dude.

chrisoff · Post by **chrisoff** » Tue May 27, 2008 4:57 am

Dale wrote:I'm interested in what obstacles would have to be overcome to get people there alive and bring them back.