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IRTradRU? · Post by **IRTradRU?** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:47 pm

Associated Press

VATICAN CITY — Pope John Paul II may have to return to the hospital to have a feeding tube inserted, an Italian news agency reported today. It stressed that no decision had been made.

The APcom news agency, citing an unidentified source, said the 84-year-old pope might have to have the tube inserted to improve his nutrition since he is having difficulty swallowing with the breathing tube that was inserted Feb. 24.

FJohnSharp · Post by **FJohnSharp** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:35 pm

Talk about timing.

OnTheMoor · Post by **OnTheMoor** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:43 pm

All my prayers are with the pope... but this will be interesting.

anniemcu · Post by **anniemcu** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:57 pm

IRTradRU? wrote:Associated Press

VATICAN CITY — Pope John Paul II may have to return to the hospital to have a feeding tube inserted, an Italian news agency reported today. It stressed that no decision had been made.

The APcom news agency, citing an unidentified source, said the 84-year-old pope might have to have the tube inserted to improve his nutrition since he is having difficulty swallowing with the breathing tube that was inserted Feb. 24.

Can you link to the article please?

IRTradRU? · Post by **IRTradRU?** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:14 pm

Houston Chronicle, today:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/rssstory.mpl/front/3106365

cowtime · Post by **cowtime** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:52 pm

If he's gotta have one he can be glad he's not here in the good old US of A.

Walden · Post by **Walden** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:55 pm

cowtime wrote:If he's gotta have one he can be glad he's not here in the good old US of A.

... and for that vow of celibacy.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:24 am

I wonder if the pope is afraid of dying. He's so obviously frail and physically falling apart, I wonder why he doesn't just allow himself to go.

According to him, he will immediately go to heaven to be with Jesus and new pope will be elected in short order, so I don't know why he doesn't just stop hanging on. Unless, of course, it has something to do with ego, which I don't entirely doubt.

izzarina · Post by **izzarina** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:52 am

Cranberry wrote:According to him, he will immediately go to heaven to be with Jesus and new pope will be elected in short order, so I don't know why he doesn't just stop hanging on. Unless, of course, it has something to do with ego, which I don't entirely doubt.

Actually, cran, just being the Pope does not guarantee you salvation. I would hope that the Pope would be the first person to admit to that, since it's one of the basic premises of the Catholic faith.
I don't know really if he's TRYING to stay alive really. It may just not be his time.

rh · Post by rh » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:04 am

excuse this, i'm basically ignorant of Catholicism, now i'm wondering... who hears the Pope's confession? who will administer Last Rites? is any ordained Roman Catholic priest qualified to do this?

izzarina · Post by **izzarina** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:29 am

rh wrote:excuse this, i'm basically ignorant of Catholicism, now i'm wondering... who hears the Pope's confession? who will administer Last Rites? is any ordained Roman Catholic priest qualified to do this?

I would assume that any priest in the Vatican (or really anywhere...it would just be easier I suppose for someone right there to hear it) hears his confessions, and will administer Last Rites. Any Catholic priest is capable of hearing any person's confession, despite his office. So a parish priest from Peoria could conceivably hear the Pope's confessions as well as administer Last Rites. But he does have a confessor that hears his confessions on a weekly basis, from what I understand. I'm not sure if that same priest will also end up administering Last Rites.

missy · Post by **missy** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:14 pm

It's not "Last Rites" anymore, it's "Annointing of the Sick". And you don't need to be "dying" to receive this sacrament, you just need to have the spiritual help that the sacrament will offer. You can also receive this sacrament numerous times.
This was another of the changes of Vatican II.

Missy

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:19 pm

All those rituals are so silly, in my view. I'm sure God doesn't care if you were blessed by a pope before you died or delivered any last rites. I'm sure that God cares about what is in your heart and your relationship with him and little or nothing else.

I just cannot fathom a God that says, "You're going to Hell/Purgatory because you didn't go through the proper rituals before you died".

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:24 pm

I think it is a shame that this old man, coming to the end of his days, is still being paraded in public when he is so obviously in such bad health.
I know that a new Pope can't be elected until this one dies but where is the harm in letting him see out his days with dignity and privacy.

His being allowed to retire,in a manner of speaking, is not going to bring about any harm to the Catholic Church.

Slan,
D.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:28 pm

dubhlinn wrote:I think it is a shame that this old man, coming to the end of his days, is still being paraded in public when he is so obviously in such bad health.
I know that a new Pope can't be elected until this one dies but where is the harm in letting him see out his days with dignity and privacy.

His being allowed to retire,in a manner of speaking, is not going to bring about any harm to the Catholic Church.

Slan,
D.

Not surprisingly, I agree.

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