On Deepfakes
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:28 pm
We can no longer complacently say, "Seeing is believing."
Discuss. That is, if you can believe your eyes.
Discuss. That is, if you can believe your eyes.
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Who said that?Nanohedron wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:28 pm We can no longer complacently say, "Seeing is believing."
Discuss. That is, if you can believe your eyes.
There were a couple of articles I read somewhere commenting on this year's uncannily high level of quality among AI-generated deepfakes compared to last year, and to the casual observer - and that's most of us - they're pretty good. Reportedly all the cats in the following composite pic (from this article) are AI-generated:benhall.1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:11 pmWho said that?Nanohedron wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:28 pm We can no longer complacently say, "Seeing is believing."
Discuss. That is, if you can believe your eyes.
What's worse is that we still need to find them homes.
Here you go:
Thank you Nano. I should've known. I am a bit gullible.Nanohedron wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:59 pmHere you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake
Strictly speaking, I suppose the cat images might not be considered deepfakes per se, but only constructions. Still, that's part of the game.
I don't see why; it's only recently become something of a household word, and it won't be every household.
We all are. It took some really hard looking for me to realize why those pics are fakes, and I didn't get it all on the first pass. There are only four left so far that give me little reason, other than being told, to be certain that they are in fact artificial constructions.ytliek wrote:I am a bit gullible.
Some people haven't said that since shortly after the invention of photography. As the Deepfake Wikipedia page says "the act of faking content is not new". A century ago people who could have been regarded as 'influencers' of their time were fooled by some crude efforts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies Normal folk going to a show of 'lantern slides' given by an explorer may not have noticed if some had been 'touched up' a bit to better illustrate the story (I have seen examples )Nanohedron wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:28 pm We can no longer complacently say, "Seeing is believing."
It's very interesting: In some pics you and I see the same things, but in others we don't, and in others yet we have very different cues as to why we think they're fakes.benhall.1 wrote:How does that measure up with what you were thinking, Nano?
I don't know; I'm pretty impressed that AI can make such pictures independently with no human manipulation of the product required. Makes me all the more liable to keep my eyes open - and I've been doing that for years already, but, I must admit, not always with success. I remember a certain tuba ...david_h wrote:As for the AI bit. Meh.
Well then, AI can scoop the litterboxes. (It can come practice on mine... which, unfortunately, is quite real...)Nanohedron wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:59 pm If AI can make cats, it can make the real estate. And the litterboxes.