TelegramSam wrote:I read somewhere that they ended up on Tol Eressea, "The Lonely Isle" not the Undying Lands. I wish I could remember where I read that, I think it might have been in one of those lost tales type books that Tolkien's son put together.
If anything, they probably simply were given a time to heal and gain a bit of peace before passing on. They were, after all, mortal, and it's quite clearly stated in several places (especially throughout the Silmarillion) that the final fate of the souls of mortals is not the same as that of the Elves, though nobody knows what Illuvitar (the Creator of Middle-Earth) had in mind for them, not even the Valar.
Them gaining immortality in the Undying Lands wouldn't make sense at all in the context of Tolkien's world, just wouldn't follow the rules of it at all.
Yep. I think this summarizes it nicely, in every point.
These heavy-duty butt pliers are for pulling out the industrial-sized needles one finds in Chamber of Commerce members, fundamentalists and Tolkien pedants. For most work, such as de-needlizing women, young boys and the occasional Episcopalian, a less robust tool is adequate --
And for those extra tough jobs -- Uilleann pipers and IRTRAD snobs and those shrill harpies you see at PETA demonstrations -- The Shocking Burst Adamantine Butt Pliers of Doom + 5 --
...and just to mention - I feel I must - in case there's any confusion, needle removal is not about unfortunate random sitting accidents, but a metaphor for the tightness and grip of one's...um...oh, never mind.
Where's that tractor...
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Nanohedron wrote:
May it be well that you misspelt this, as it is a peril to bring to light here on the boards.
I can only offer in my defense that I have never actually read the damn thing, and the only place I have seen it in print is in D&D, where it it is spelled 'mithral.'
The first hundred or so pages are a killer, and I've always given up and switched to something more entertaining, like "The Greatest Works of Warren G. Harding" or "The Complete History of German Philosophy."
You did it again. STOP IT.
There is a troll - one must not speak his name - who arises at the smell of it. Change the "A" for an "I", and search. I must reveal no more.
TelegramSam wrote:Them gaining immortality in the Undying Lands wouldn't make sense at all in the context of Tolkien's world, just wouldn't follow the rules of it at all.
But wasn't their status as ringbearers cause for exception to the rules?
If the Tol Eressëa scenario is the case then I agree that peace/healing/death is probably their fate.
The Teleri had harbor for passage to Tol Eressëa in Alqualondë but after that sunk did they set up The Grey Havens or was that just a Sindarin harbor?
I should have remembered that you are infallable Pope Gonzo. (but you've gotta admit, they do look like hoof nippers-except that yes, the handles are a bit short, didn't notice that)
"Let low-country intruder approach a cove
And eyes as gray as icicle fangs measure stranger
For size, honesty, and intent." John Foster West
Tell us something.: I've picked up the tinwhistle again after several years, and have recently purchased a Chieftain v5 from Kerry Whistles that I cannot wait to get (why can't we beam stuff yet, come on Captain Kirk, get me my Low D!)
Congratulations wrote:Why is this thread on page 4?
Nerds...
Nerd Yesself fer showin up on page four!!
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