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spittin_in_the_wind wrote:Actually, I don't consider football to be a violent sport. Physical, yes, violent, no. Violence means intentionally trying to injure another person; I consider most boxing to be violent.
Actually, having some background in Boxing, I'd have to disagree. Boxing may seem violent to outsiders, but in fact, one doesn't go in with the idea of causing the opponent permanent damage, in fact those boxers who have been involved in situations where an opponent was seriously injured or killed, tend to be devastated. Boxing is a contest of skill and will, the idea being to stop your opponent before he/she can stop you, but believe it or not, it's not about violence per se. I'd argue that football really IS the more violent sport, regardless of the rules. Ask any college or pro running back what goes on under the "pile-up".....
I guess I should qualify the remark about boxing to say, the kind you see in the Olympics seems ok to me. They generally have head protection, etc. and it's fairly refereed. It's the big, spectacle heavyweight stuff that seems just a blood sport to me--no protection and guys getting seriously pummeled before the official steps in to stop it.
Having just watched the halftime show, I have to say, it was pretty durn good (and 1000% better than last year). Paul was in pretty good form. I watched it with a friend of mine who is a HUGE Paul fan so the best part of the show for me was watching her swooning over Paul.
Anyway, just want to say "Well Done" to Sir Paul.
Beth
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We were singing along too - we tried to get my dad to sing, he said he didn't know the words (this was the "na na" part) :roll: - but even he eventually sang along!
Beth
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I think it was pretty impressive. The Hoffner bass was classy, and the pyrotechnics on Live and Let Die were out of this world. How do they set up that stage, with all that equipment, in so little time? And Paul was definitely rocking.
Who was the lead guitar player? He almost stole the show.
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spittin_in_the_wind wrote:Actually, I don't consider football to be a violent sport. Physical, yes, violent, no. Violence means intentionally trying to injure another person; I consider most boxing to be violent.
Actually, having some background in Boxing, I'd have to disagree. Boxing may seem violent to outsiders, but in fact, one doesn't go in with the idea of causing the opponent permanent damage, in fact those boxers who have been involved in situations where an opponent was seriously injured or killed, tend to be devastated. Boxing is a contest of skill and will, the idea being to stop your opponent before he/she can stop you, but believe it or not, it's not about violence per se. I'd argue that football really IS the more violent sport, regardless of the rules. Ask any college or pro running back what goes on under the "pile-up".....
Loren
I don't know...any "sport" where the idea is to render your opponent unconscious is pretty violent to me. I had a very good friend who was a Golden Gloves boxer at the Naval Academy. He'd won some matches and was working his way up to some championship. We went to one of his bouts and it was terribly disturbing to me--and not just because he lost. It was obviously entertaining to a lot of people, but to watch someone I cared about being beaten and bloodied until he didn't know who or where he was (the match was finally called in some late round) turned me against boxing forever. I even had a hard time watching "Million Dollar Baby."
spittin_in_the_wind wrote:Actually, I don't consider football to be a violent sport. Physical, yes, violent, no. Violence means intentionally trying to injure another person; I consider most boxing to be violent.
Actually, having some background in Boxing, I'd have to disagree. Boxing may seem violent to outsiders, but in fact, one doesn't go in with the idea of causing the opponent permanent damage, in fact those boxers who have been involved in situations where an opponent was seriously injured or killed, tend to be devastated. Boxing is a contest of skill and will, the idea being to stop your opponent before he/she can stop you, but believe it or not, it's not about violence per se. I'd argue that football really IS the more violent sport, regardless of the rules. Ask any college or pro running back what goes on under the "pile-up".....
Loren
I don't get it Loren. How do you stop your opponent, except by causing so much physical damage to his/her body that s/he can't fight back?
In fencing, for example, you score points by touching the opponent, but not by running them through. Is that how boxing is supposed to be scored?
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