Help dating this penny whistle

[smarkerbarker]

Hello.
Can anyone help date this old penny whistle? Any help would be appreciated!

[MTGuru]

Interesting! No idea, but I'd guess circa 1900. I like the labeled toneholes. And the logo, whatever it is - a ship? a basket?

I also note that G. Clark's is not R. Clarke. Does it have a wooden block, or a lead block, or a flat metal windway like a Shaw? I'm guesing the latter.

[kkrell]

I think the logo is meant to be a crown.

[Jerry Freeman]

Wood, if it's like the one I've seen.

I restored one of these not long ago. I haven't a clue as to the age or anything about the maker (except it wasn't Robert Clarke).

Best wishes,
Jerry

[smarkerbarker]

I think the logo is meant to be a crown.

It's a crown and it has a wooden block. Also has PAT. 88 or 83 stamped on it if that helps anyone to date it. Thanks for the responses!

[mutepointe]

If you would like to date this whistle, may I suggest making introductions through a common acquaintance, finding out where the whistle hangs out and "accidently" bumping into the whistle, maybe at a bookstore, grocery store, or someplace similar, inviting the whistles to join you for coffee, then working your way up to lunch or a civic event. Just because a whistle looks beautiful doesn't mean the whistle is beautiful inside. Didn't your Mom teach you anything?

[smarkerbarker]

If you would like to date this whistle, may I suggest making introductions through a common acquaintance, finding out where the whistle hangs out and "accidently" bumping into the whistle, maybe at a bookstore, grocery store, or someplace similar, inviting the whistles to join you for coffee, then working your way up to lunch or a civic event. Just because a whistle looks beautiful doesn't mean the whistle is beautiful inside. Didn't your Mom teach you anything?

lol....Thanks for the suggestions. I never dated a whistle before and I'm kinda shy so thought I would ask.

[Denny]

whistles are very forward...

you'll know where ya stand early on

[s1m0n]

I think the logo is meant to be a crown.

Me too

[Jerry Freeman]

The only antique whistle maker I've been able to track down is Barnett Samuel (later "... and Sons"). They sold a huge variety of musical instruments, most of which would have been made for them by various craftsmen and imprinted with the company's label.

Eventually, they distributed a version of a gramophone that was so hugely successful, they decided to transform the business into a company that produced and distributed the new recorded music. They wanted a name that gave a sense that it was the place huge numbers of people would flock to, so they picked a name that rhymes with "Mecca."

There are many old whistles with "Dulcet" and/or "in tune" in the logo, but I've never been able to track down any information about them. And of course, there are old Clarkes and Generations. Before the mid 'fifties, the Generations were similar to other antique whistles in that they had a metal fipple plug, possibly poured lead.

Your whistle is unusual, as it's a conical, rolled and soldered whistle that appears to be of the same vintage as early Clarkes, rather than a cylindrical whistle as are most others of the same age. I've seen many of the other whistles I mentioned, but that's only the second of this type I've seen.

Best wishes,
Jerry

[hoopy mike]

Interesting! No idea, but I'd guess circa 1900. I like the labeled toneholes...

Very interesting. Not the whistle for me though - I wouldn't be able to read the print on the labeled toneholes whilst playing what with my long-sightedness.

[Mr.Gumby]

I was going to say 'did you try chocolate and roses?' but I'll get my coat now, will I?

[chas]

I thought the Gumbys preferred chrymanthesums.

[crookedtune]

Whoops, a bit late to this one. Has she got a sister, then?

[Mr.Gumby]

Your whistle is unusual, as it's a conical,

A bit of a bold statement isn't it?

The only antique whistle maker I've been able to track down is Barnett Samuel (later "... and Sons"). They sold a huge variety of musical instruments, most of which would have been made for them by various craftsmen and imprinted with the company's label.

You make 'tracking down' sound like such hard work!