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Where is a good place to execute that killer tripple tongue? I know that for rolls, you can use a long roll on a dotted crotchet(dotted 1/4 note), and a short roll on a crotchet. It doesn't seem to work this way for tripple tonguing and double tonguing though.
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Post by claudine »

you could do lots of triple tonguing in "Carnival of Venice"
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Post by StevieJ »

OK, you asked for it. Try reworking your Golden Keyboard, second part, like this.

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The first four "trebles" replace what I call "off-beat rolls" that would often be played in these places. The second is tricky because the note after the treble is also an E, so you'll have to tongue that too (ta-ka-ta - Ta).

After that you get to try one on an on-beat crotchet (quarter-note). The last one is trickier, but extremely nifty, and definitely my favourite. A good way to dress up a pattern involving D. Double the D and then go to the C#. You can slur into the next note. (This last example is a fiddle-player's trick and I haven't heard anyone else do it on the whistle.)

I'll post the ABC so you can listen to it on the concertina.net MIDI generator. I've tweaked the ABC source so that you get not a triplet as written above, but two semiquavers (16th notes) followed by a quaver (8th note), which is what you really want. Have fun!

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X:1
T:Tongued-triplet exercise (The Golden Keyboard)
M:C|
L:1/8
D:
Z:"Brother" Steve Jones
K:EDor
|:Be .e/.e/.e Beed|Be .e/.e/.e edBc|dA .A/.A/.A eA .A/.A/.A|f3e dBAF|
E3F GFGA|.B/.B/.B gB fBec|d2 .d/.d/.c dBAF|DFAF GEE2:|

% ABC2Win Version 2.1 2001-08-17

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PS I have taken the rolls out of the ABC because the MIDI generator makes them sound silly.

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Hey, thanks and thanks and thanks Stevie!
Thanks for the recommendation too, Claudine! I will check out that tune after I cleared out my back-burner of tunes..

Steve, I think I found quite a kewl way to practice tripple tongues, inspired by your "jig exercise" (No.3) on your site.

Instead of playing:
DAA dAA EAA eAA FAA fAA GAA gAA
(where lower case denotes 2nd octave)

We can do:
D(AAA) d(AAA) E(AAA) e(AAA) F(AAA) f(AAA) G(AAA) g(AAA)
(where notes in bracketts denote tripple tonguing)

And we can change the base tripple tonguing note (in this case A), to G or B or whatever tripple tongue required to be practised and it still sounds quite good!
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Post by McHaffie »

I found that using triple tounging on the very first few notes of the second part of Irish Washerwoman as a lead into it sounds really cool...
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Post by claudine »

Eldarion, I'm sorry - my post wasn't meant seriously. "Carnival of Venice" is a well-known cornet/trumpet solo, it's a show-piece and contains lots of double and triple tonguing. But I don't think that it could be performed on the whistle. Unless you belong to the kind of people who are able to play "The Flight of the Bumble Bee" on whistle - in that case: sky is the limit.
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Post by MarkB »

Thanks Eldarion for asking and pursuing the question of triple tonquing. And thank you Steve for the great answer and exerccise.

I to am having a bit of a problem learning triple tonguing, but find it an interesting expression in whistling.

Mark
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