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please don't flog me....

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:51 am
by michael_coleman
or do.....


I picked up the only sweetone I have left the other day and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Its amazing that a $2 whistle is conical bore (whats the deal, you can get one for $2 or one for about $250-300 (Copeland)) and mine have been relatively in tune.

So, lets here it for a cheap whistle that really isn't all that bad....

Re: please don't flog me....

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:55 am
by izzarina
michael_coleman wrote:or do.....


I picked up the only sweetone I have left the other day and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Its amazing that a $2 whistle is conical bore (whats the deal, you can get one for $2 or one for about $250-300 (Copeland)) and mine have been relatively in tune.

So, lets here it for a cheap whistle that really isn't all that bad....
no flogging from me! :) I actually like to practice on my Sweetone. And I agree you can't beat the price....it's a great little whistle for the price

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:03 am
by Will O'B
Sometimes when I play the Sweetone I feel like it's a toy, other times I really like it's mellow tone. I don't really know why, perhaps it's just the mood I'm in at that particular moment. It also seems like I paid about six times more for mine than what you did for yours.

Will O'Ban

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:06 am
by glauber
I like the Sweetone D. On the other hand, never liked the C.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:12 am
by Flyingcursor
glauber wrote:I like the Sweetone D. On the other hand, never liked the C.
Ditto. I haven't found a C I like.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:28 am
by JessieK
I agree, too. Love the d, hate the (tuning of the) c.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:30 am
by izzarina
JessieK wrote:I agree, too. Love the d, hate the (tuning of the) c.
This is good to know...I only have a D. I didn't realize that there would be such a difference with the C.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:40 am
by Jay-eye
Gotta silver D - really liked it - haven't tried any other keys.
Let one of my daughters take it with her to college - WHY? Missing it already....

The one I'm really enjoying playing round the house at the moment, though, is my narrow bore Hoover D. He made it into a pocket whistle for me, it splits in half, and it's just ACE! Great for late night/early morning playing without disturbing anyone. Great for learning tunes too, 'cause you can hear what you're playing along with.

Ooops. Sorry that was a bit OT. :roll:

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:53 am
by TXwhistle
I don't like my Sweetone C either, so I never play it. I'll have to try the D. On the other hand, I love my $2 Meg D. It rocks!

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:58 am
by Joe_Atlanta
izzarina wrote:This is good to know...I only have a D. I didn't realize that there would be such a difference with the C.
Well, I've got a C (unpainted) and the tuning seems fine on mine. The second octave gets a bit of a harder sound than the first, but not nearly as bad as my Susato VSB D. And I find the bottom hole more of a stretch than a couple of other Cs I've tried. Anyway, it's currently my favorite among my meager collection. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, although I've been a musician for 30 years, I've only been a whistler for a month.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:04 pm
by Jerry Freeman
There are two versions of the C Sweetones, both of which have issues.

The older ones are out of tune with themselves, but the finger spacing is comfortable. The newer ones have the intonation problem fixed, but the spacing between the bottom two holes is awkwardly far. I find I have to use a piper's grip on the bottom hand.

Best wishes,
Jerry

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:16 pm
by JessieK
Hmm, that's interesting, Jerry.

The tuning problem for me on the c is not the D scale, but the G scale. There is no cross-fingering that produces an in-tune C natural.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:19 pm
by Joe_Atlanta
Jerry Freeman wrote:The newer ones have the intonation problem fixed, but the spacing between the bottom two holes is awkwardly far. I find I have to use a piper's grip on the bottom hand.
Thanks for the info, Jerry. My experience with the intonation of the whistle was so different than the majority, I had hesitated to comment.

I had also been wondering about that bottom hole (geez, if you can't even get the stretch on a C, give up on Bb or G). So far I've just been rolling my hand around the whistle a little bit more so that my first two fingers are hitting on the bottom of the first pad. This makes it easier to stretch out my ring finger. I've also been using a doubled rubber band as a cheat to help that finger find the hole.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:38 pm
by michael_coleman
I have a newer C and my crossfinger seems fairly reasonable (oxx ooo, sometimes I have to add an extra hole to flatten it a bit oxx xoo). They aren't so bad once you realize (as Jerry has mentioned before) you can adjust the mouthpiece, just don't twist or you will strip the inside...

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:44 pm
by vomitbunny
I had (had) one of the older ones. The tuning was sucky. it felt like the d's were flat. I took a bit off the end of the whistle and at least it was toleralbe afterwards. Still didn't like the sound though. Muddy.
My first sweetone was really great, but honestly the Meg I bought later plays better.