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Cuts on second octave

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:16 am
by learn2turn
I watched a couple tutorials on cuts and they go up to B on the first octave. Obviously you can't cut a C#; I suppose you could substitute a tap. I've tried to figure out how to do cuts on the second octave.

I noticed with a D 0xxxxx if I try to do a cut like 0x0xxx, it goes down not up. And with xxxxxx and cutting the left hand like xx0xxx also doesn't work well. I like the 1st D on the second octave xxxxxx cut to xxx0xx or xxxx0x the best. And going up the scale, I find cutting one finger above the last finger down works best. Like cut E xxxxx0 with xxx0x0 and F xxxx00 with xx0x00.

DId I figure the best way to cut the second octave?

-l2t

Re: Cuts on second octave

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:52 pm
by StevieJ
If you have found techniques that work best, why ask others? I mean, nothing anyone else says can improve on "best." :)

The whistle you are playing may make a difference. On the ones I use, I have never encountered any difficulty cutting the second octave D with the "G finger" (top hand ring finger).

I don't use a "vented" D (top hand index finger off) all that often, but the cut you describe that goes down is a characteristic sound that I very much like.

Re: Cuts on second octave

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:08 pm
by tstermitz
You can cut a C# like this:
C: OOO XXX (which sometimes sounds better than OOO OOO, anyway)
D: OXX XXX

For a C# roll, use. (Easier with a piper's grip on the left hand):
B: XOO XXX

Rolling the C natural is easy enough on a whistle, and it's even possible on flute (you need to pop the fingers very crisply, which becomes harder as the holes get larger):
C: OXO XXX
D: OXX XXX
A: XXO XXX

Re: Cuts on second octave

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:48 am
by pancelticpiper
I did a little video that covers Middle D cuts and 2nd octave cuts, when you might want to use a different finger than in the low octave etc.

(Sorry if YouTube puts an advert there! I get no money from my videos.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbE3JyWrJOE