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German Whistler wrote:but i am wondering because mtguru was so sure about thats its a faked d
I think you're misquoting him:
MTGuru wrote:It's a "faked" Sweetone C, and I posted about it earlier this year: viewtopic.php?p=1106063#p1106063
(emphasis mine)

And I believe he was referring to the video being the "fake" part.
i.e., you see a C Sweetone being played in the video but since it's not mic'd, it's not necessarily the whistle in the audio, which could conceivably be anything.
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Mr.Gumby wrote:You may as well suggest a huge upsurge in people walking around beating side drums.
Oh no!! But maybe it will promote barefoot singing. That wouldn't be bad.
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yes i would like to see a video of mtguru barefoot singing "only teardrops" and win the whistle
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look at this video, at 1:52:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogzXY17CUI

Here Jakob plays a Clark Original. It is a different video, rather confusing!
But since Jakob plays a Clark Original on the tutorial clip, and clearly plays it, I imagine that is the whistle he played for the recording.

In contrast to this, at 1:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4nd8XFTgo
where he plays a Sweetone seemingly.
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Mr.Gumby wrote:Or a huge rise in drinking problems because of the Greek song.
Makes me want to drink. Yikes.

I'm not very familiar with Eurovision except when it comes up here. I have some questions:
Is there a reason there are so many entries in English (even the Russian entry)? Does it help your chances to shoot for a common denominator?
Does Bulgaria have a percussion surplus?
Why is Montenegro the only country that has discovered dubstep?
When did Klaus Nomi move to Romania?
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hans wrote:look at this video, at 1:52:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogzXY17CUI

Here Jakob plays a Clark Original. It is a different video, rather confusing!
But since Jakob plays a Clark Original on the tutorial clip, and clearly plays it, I imagine that is the whistle he played for the recording.

In contrast to this, at 1:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4nd8XFTgo
where he plays a Sweetone seemingly.
looks like you have even seen more videos of it then i have (and i have seen a lot)
seems that you like the song too ;-)

anyway in the final he did had the sweettone or meg

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Mr.Gumby wrote: ....Is there a reason there are so many entries in English (even the Russian entry)? Does it help your chances to shoot for a common denominator?
Does Bulgaria have a percussion surplus?
Why is Montenegro the only country that has discovered dubstep?
When did Klaus Nomi move to Romania?
dont even understand your questions because i dont understand , shoot for a common denominator, a percussion surplus, dubstep, Klaus Nomi

BUt i can tell you why so many sing english
its because people in europe mostly dont understand the languages of the others, but english they do understand, so you have more chances that the song is understood/liked in other countries when its in english

why the most famous songs in the world are in english? not because they are better, its because they are more often understood and because of that more often liked

I always WONDER why so many not European countrys can take part
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German Whistler wrote:looks like you have even seen more videos of it then i have (and i have seen a lot)
seems that you like the song too ;-)

anyway in the final he did had the sweettone or meg
:boggle:
I never watch Eurovision :evil: , and I am not going to watch any more videos of this song. I don't like that kind of singing style where the singer breaks off the voice all the time, sort of strangles it at the end of a phrase. I was curious about the whistle identification, and the whistler.

Wonder why he used the Sweetone for the final then? A Clarke Original would have been so much more ... original. Did it get stolen? Did he gave it to someone? Did he sit on it? So many mysteries... :D
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hans wrote: Wonder why he used the Sweetone for the final then? A Clarke Original would have been so much more ... original. Did it get stolen? Did he gave it to someone? Did he sit on it? So many mysteries... :D
yes, isnt it ? ;-)
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The greatest mystery to me is that we now have two pages, 22 comments.. wait 23 comments on the subject of who won the eurovision crapmusic (whistle or not regardless) festival! :-)

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Ketil wrote:The greatest mystery to me is that we now have two pages, 22 comments.. wait 23 comments on the subject of who won the eurovision crapmusic (whistle or not regardless) festival! :-)

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True,true! It's just like the deer and the headlights, you know.. Hard to break loose :shock: I even watched parts of the show!! :o

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poor deer ;-)
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German Whistler wrote:BUt i can tell you why so many sing english
its because people in europe mostly dont understand the languages of the others, but english they do understand, so you have more chances that the song is understood/liked in other countries when its in english
I think you wrote your own counterargument:
German Whistler wrote:dont even understand your questions because i dont understand , shoot for a common denominator, a percussion surplus, dubstep, Klaus Nomi
But I'll try to explain them (most were jokes anyway, which when explained, according to the law, will not be funny):
shoot for a common denominator
"Attempt to appeal to the most listeners possible by exploiting a trait that a large number of the listeners share (in this case, English)".
Common denominator is from Math. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest_common_denominator
German Whistler wrote:a percussion surplus
"There sure were a lot of drums in that video. They must have had a good drum harvest this year."
German Whistler wrote:dubstep
I can't really explain it. It's a music style. Google is your friend.
But suffice it to say, it started in the UK, and has now made it into a Taylor Swift song, so I would have expected to hear its influence more. It has lots of drum and sub-bass like in the Montenegro vid
German Whistler wrote:Klaus Nomi
wikipedia wrote:"a German countertenor noted for his wide vocal range and an unusual, otherworldly stage persona."
He sang pop covers in the 80's with an operatic range:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuSrsGzhD9U#t=40s

He had an amazing upper range, kind of like this Romanian dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3xp5ZXSYA#t=38
Oh wait, do I detect a dubstep breakdown at around 1:55? Dang, I take it back, Montenegro.
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