Allow me to ask a stupid question.

energy · Post by **energy** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 9:46 pm

I agree, Janice, you're completely correct. I guess my point was more about the actual rhythmic nature of reels. A lot of the good, traditional musicians play a reel more like ONE-two ONE-two ONE-two ONE-two, in contrast to true cut time which would be ONE-two-three-four-ONE-two-three-four. However, there is also usually a strong emphasis on the third beat in the former rhythmic style, so there is a strong cut time element as well; it's sort of a combination of the two.

janice · Post by **janice** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:07 pm

Sorry Energy, but cut time is cut time. Cut time is the same as 2/2, thus no one, two, three four. There are still only two beats per bar, not four.

energy · Post by **energy** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:13 pm

Well, then perhaps reels aren't in true cut time? The shortcomings of sheet music are oft spoken of, and especially when it comes to accurately portraying rhythm.

madguy · Post by **madguy** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:36 am

Why do I get the feeling that the majority of this thread has probably totally confused Guthrum?

~Larry

trisha · Post by **trisha** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 4:21 am

janice wrote:
Sorry-I still disagree with your original statement. In Irish trad, hornpipes are played as hornpipes and not as reels (and as far as I know there are no exceptions to this). I play with Cape Breton fiddlers and I have, as yet, to hear them play a hornpipe as a reel....but again, there are always exceptions.....

Which is precisely what I said - that Cape Breton fiddlers make the distinction clearly.

Also if you had read my mail as it is written, you would have seen that I am referring to pieces of music NAMED as hornpipes ie do not take something as a dyed-in-the-wool hornpipe just because it is named as such. NAMES CAN BE DECEPTIVE TOO.

Trisha

Tyghress · Post by **Tyghress** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:04 am

How many times do I need to clarify that jig rhythm is actually "paradimethylaminobenzaldehyde"????

Sheesh!

madguy · Post by **madguy** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:19 am

Tyghress wrote:How many times do I need to clarify that jig rhythm is actually "paradimethylaminobenzaldehyde"????

Sheesh!

That's the word I was trying to think of!

Seriously, though, huh???

~Larry

Guthrum · Post by **Guthrum** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:32 am

Thanks for all the information folks.

jd

janice · Post by **janice** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:42 am

Like the commercial says, clarity is everything!!

And sorry if I offended you Trisha, none intended. And I was responding to your your first post ("many are played as reels") as inaccurate. I should have read your second post more clearly.

trisha · Post by **trisha** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:55 pm

None taken

Trisha

cowtime · Post by **cowtime** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 8:56 pm

The major thing I learned re: trad tunes(and I learned this in pipe class)
"It's written that way, but that's not the way you play it"

I rely on a recording of an "expert" instead of the written timing when learning a tune, because-

I repeat- "It's written that way, but that's not the way you play it"...... :roll: Very frustrating for someone classically trained in music, but true non the less.