Never Never Never!

The Ultimate On-Line Whistle Community. If you find one more ultimater, let us know.
User avatar
Phil Hardy
Posts: 564
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2001 6:00 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Contact:

Never Never Never!

Post by Phil Hardy »

Never hold your whistle at the bottom and try to flick spit out of the mouthpiece.
This can result in all sorts of problem including:
The whistle flyingout of your hands.
The headjoint flying off.
On alloy whistles,the block flying out.
Catching the edge of a table and bashing your whistle out of shape.
This is a very stupid practice and should be discouraged.
If your whistle becomes clogged,just put you finger over the window and gently blow the spit clear.
You know it makes sense.
Phil
ps never suck the spit back into your mouth,this should go without saying but is a very common practice.
User avatar
amar
Posts: 4857
Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2002 6:00 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 12
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Contact:

Re: Never Never Never!

Post by amar »

Phil Hardy wrote:Never hold your whistle at the bottom and try to flick spit out of the mouthpiece.
This can result in all sorts of problem including:
The whistle flyingout of your hands.
The headjoint flying off.
On alloy whistles,the block flying out.
Catching the edge of a table and bashing your whistle out of shape.
This is a very stupid practice and should be discouraged.
If your whistle becomes clogged,just put you finger over the window and gently blow the spit clear.
You know it makes sense.
Phil
ps never suck the spit back into your mouth,this should go without saying but is a very common practice.
you forgot one thing.
you might flick the spit into someone's face this way too..
Image
Image
thirdfipple
Posts: 49
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:02 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Indiana

Re: Never Never Never!

Post by thirdfipple »

amar wrote:you forgot one thing.
you might flick the spit into someone's face this way too..

uhmm and your point is?

(duckin' and runnin')
User avatar
Congratulations
Posts: 4215
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:05 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Charleston, SC
Contact:

Re: Never Never Never!

Post by Congratulations »

amar wrote:
Phil Hardy wrote:Never hold your whistle at the bottom and try to flick spit out of the mouthpiece.
This can result in all sorts of problem including:
The whistle flyingout of your hands.
The headjoint flying off.
On alloy whistles,the block flying out.
Catching the edge of a table and bashing your whistle out of shape.
This is a very stupid practice and should be discouraged.
If your whistle becomes clogged,just put you finger over the window and gently blow the spit clear.
You know it makes sense.
Phil
ps never suck the spit back into your mouth,this should go without saying but is a very common practice.
you forgot one thing.
you might flick the spit into someone's face this way too..
I thought that was the point.
oh Lana Turner we love you get up
Gabriel
Posts: 1755
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:35 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8

Re: Never Never Never!

Post by Gabriel »

Phil Hardy wrote:ps never suck the spit back into your mouth,this should go without saying but is a very common practice.
Why? That's a common practise among recorder players.
User avatar
amar
Posts: 4857
Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2002 6:00 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 12
Location: Basel, Switzerland
Contact:

Re: Never Never Never!

Post by amar »

Gabriel wrote:
Phil Hardy wrote:ps never suck the spit back into your mouth,this should go without saying but is a very common practice.
Why? That's a common practise among recorder players.

Loren, true?
Image
Image
User avatar
Unseen122
Posts: 3542
Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 7:21 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: Of course I'm not a bot; I've been here for years... Apparently that isn't enough to pass muster though!
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

Post by Unseen122 »

As most Whistles are made of metal and the metal may cause problem if ingested.
Gabriel
Posts: 1755
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:35 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8

Post by Gabriel »

I see. So I don't have to bother taking the whistle from my lips, cover the window and blow through it. Wooden whistles rock.


@amar: True. :party: Recorders clog VERY fast when the headpiece isn't warmed properly because of the very narrow windway, so you have to suck the spit back to get the high notes clearly (remember, recorders play 2.5 or even 3+ octaves - a bit more complicated than whistles...), and you haven't the time to take it and blow through it when playing long high passages in solo works. ;)
User avatar
brewerpaul
Posts: 7300
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2001 6:00 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 10
Location: Clifton Park, NY
Contact:

Post by brewerpaul »

Spit sucking is fine. One could argue that blowing into the windway can actually increase clogging since you're blowing more moisture laden air into the windway, albeit at a high velocity. Another danger of the blowing method is that with a wooden whistle which has a rather delicate blade, you could potentially damage the blade with your finger. Sucking works well and as has been pointed out, you can even do it in the middle of a fast tune without having to remove your fingers from the whistle. Try it.
Got wood?
http://www.Busmanwhistles.com
Let me custom make one for you!
User avatar
WhistlinBob
Posts: 107
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:40 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Whistledelphia PA

Post by WhistlinBob »

I have a friend who invented a special machine to remove whistle spit.
the machine is rather large and complicated.almost cartoon like.
my friends name you say.Its Goldberg,Rube Goldberg :boggle:
Just a little spit humor. As a trained Slide trombone player I have dealt with much wayward spit mine and my fellow brass players over the years
I think that a whistle if cleared with care by shaking,blowing through or whatever is reasonable but sucking back is rather Neanderthal like. :D I will leave that to the R#C*RD*R Crowd
a one anda two anda three. I would like you to meet my whistle instructer Charles.

[A bad day of Whistlin is better than
any day at work!!!]
Adrian
Posts: 769
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:37 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Rhodope Mountains, Greece

Post by Adrian »

My wife is a committed recorder player and says that recorders are best and most quickly cleared by sucking. She thought whistlers would naturally be flicking spit around pubs in wild abandon!
User avatar
Chiffed
Posts: 1298
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:15 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Pender Island, B.C.

Post by Chiffed »

Sax and clarinet players suck spit (er.. condensation) all the time. Even on metal sax mouthpieces. There just aren't that many options with a single-reed setup, and the 'spit-fling' is a truly poor idea on a bari sax.

I really don't worry about metal ingestion, unless the metal is lead, tin, mercury, depleted uranium, or the other nasties. I don't know about you, but I've been cooking with metal pans for quite a while.

Then again, some people's bodies are much more sesitive to metals. One could just do what is often done to trumpet mouthpieces: take your whistle to a good goldsmith and have the head portion electroplated with gold. Gold mouthpieces feel divine. I'm not sure which metals this will work on, but copper will work for sure. Talk to the whistle's maker before taking the barely-informed advice of a musician who barely passed Chemistry 12.
Happily tooting when my dogs let me.
User avatar
peeplj
Posts: 9029
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2002 6:00 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: forever in the old hills of Arkansas
Contact:

Post by peeplj »

I have been "sucking back" on both recorders and whistles for many years.

Then again, maybe that's a good argument not to. :o :D :lol:

--James
User avatar
Tia
Posts: 246
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:58 pm

Post by Tia »

wow the things that I learn... :lol: this opens a whole new way to get rid of spit
-Music is a magic beyond everything-
User avatar
IDAwHOa
Posts: 3069
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:04 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: I play whistles. I sell whistles. This seems just a BIT excessive to the cause. A sentence or two is WAY less than 100 characters.

Post by IDAwHOa »

The person I got my Overton Bass A from treated the windway with some sort of mint soap or other. Everytime I suck back I get a little bit of the flavor in my mouth. Hey, maybe it helps me when I have bad breath?

Hey, it could!
Steven - IDAwHOa - Wood Rocks

"If you keep asking questions.... You keep getting answers." - Miss Frizzle - The Magic School Bus
Post Reply