Not OT, PC : the sound of recorders vs whistles

Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:44 am

By gosh, the recorder players are coming out of the woodwork!

kevin m. · Post by **kevin m.** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:42 am

amar wrote:kevin...you're starting to worry me...this might not be your appropriate board NO LONGER!!

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Well,I have jokingly tried to make a flute from an onion stem before,but never a recorder.....hmmm..... :roll:

I do also 'lurk' on the Yahoo Recorder messageboard from time to time,but 'C. & F.' seems like 'home'

pipingturtle · Post by **pipingturtle** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:25 am

I despise, loathe, hate and wish to burn all recorders in a vast all-encompasing witch-hunt. This is primarily because we had to play them at school, otherwise I'd probably think they're pretty cool. Thankfully we didn't have to play whistles at school, otherwise the instrument of the gods would be the subject of my wrath.

TTFN.

amar · Post by **amar** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:52 am

kevin m. wrote: I do also 'lurk' on the Yahoo Recorder messageboard from time to time,but 'C. & F.' seems like 'home'

my goodness.....c&f is not the home for recorder-lovers.

kevin m. · Post by **kevin m.** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:20 am

amar wrote:
kevin m. wrote: I do also 'lurk' on the Yahoo Recorder messageboard from time to time,but 'C. & F.' seems like 'home'
my goodness.....c&f is not the home for recorder-lovers.

And here's me thinking that the Swiss were neutral!!

Zubivka · Post by **Zubivka** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:56 am

[pedant mode on]

People who complain about recorder looks may fail to grasp the classical balance of their architecture.

Looking it up in the Encyclopædia Galactica, you learn that:

“The (neo-Classical) Baroque Order (aka Greek, else Grec Order ) is easily distinguished
from the properly classical orders (Doric, Ionian, Corynthian and Mezzopotamus) by its structure.
See, it incorporates a Hognasus just under the Libidinum.”

Post by **Nanohedron** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:03 pm

Yep. A pepper mill.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:10 pm

Hard to hate something with a part called a "pignose." Perhaps I'll modify my position. After all, we have several left over from childhood lying around my mom&dad's house which we see perfectly fit to hand to the toddlers as toys and weapons.

BrassBlower · Post by **BrassBlower** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:19 pm

Zubivka wrote: cross-fingering still lets too much air get in from the A hole...

...and I thought you were supposed to play them with your mouth!

amar · Post by **amar** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:22 pm

BrassBlower wrote:
Zubivka wrote: cross-fingering still lets too much air get in from the A hole...
...and I thought you were supposed to play them with your mouth!

hahahaa...yeah...and try outward pressure instead of suction, that way air should pass out.

amar · Post by **amar** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:23 pm

kevin m. wrote:
And here's me thinking that the Swiss were neutral!!

which is one big fat lie.

Zubivka · Post by **Zubivka** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:36 pm

amar wrote:
BrassBlower wrote:
Zubivka wrote: cross-fingering still lets too much air get in from the A hole...
...and I thought you were supposed to play them with your mouth!
hahahaa...yeah...and try outward pressure instead of suction, that way air should pass out.

A--hole, eh? Fair enough

Well, I thought I weighed my words... Unless, of course, you're warming up or unclogging the whistle with ALL holes shut but the bell.
It's a bit like planes: they're more sucked up than bouncing over the air.

IDAwHOa · Post by **IDAwHOa** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:55 pm

I can't say toooo much negative about recorders, since it was the aformentioned Red Priest player that actually got us started on our trek to whistledom.

We bought recorders, nice, tweaked ones, and did not really like them: quiet, not much in the upper octive and they just did not feel right. The fact that you had to spend $500, yes $500 to get a sort of decent (read low end of the quality scale) wooden one in the key I was interested in was a HUGE turn off as well. Do you know how many QUALITY whistles you can buy for $500?

I also hate it when too much air escape through the A-hole too. Really nasty, that.

We are happy with our whistle playing.

The Weekenders · Post by **The Weekenders** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:58 pm

They just sound too damn tooty! Like a calliope without the charm.

Loren · Post by **Loren** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:51 pm

I love recorders, they pay my bills!

Seriously, I used to really dislike them, but then I realized I'd really only heard/played low to mid quality recorders.

JessieK wrote: I don't like the second octave on most recorders...it's screechy in the upper notes.

You need to play a really top quality recorder, the best are not screechy at all on the top end, and they sound much less piercing than most whistles do in the second octave.

You would absolutely love the really good alto and tenor recorders Jessie.

Loren

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Not OT, PC : the sound of recorders vs whistles

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