Songbird? I had one of those one time. I think it was one of the early ones. Cost $90 at the time.
I’ve never had a songbird.
I did have an old-style soprano D, which I didn’t like it all.
Judging by how different the old-style low D is from the new-style, I would expect his new-style soprano D’s to be improved, but I couldn’t say for sure.
Chek out the movies on Phil’s web site. I looked at Lunasa shots, some good stuff there.
I had a problem with a non-tunable Chieftain low D which wasn’t really a problem a few years ago. I thought it was out of tune to A-440. I wrote about it on the board and got several responses indicating that Chieftains were low quality whistles and that it wasn’t a surprise that the whistle was untuned. I wrote Phil about the problem and he told me to send it back. A week or so later I recieved a tunable low D Chieftain instead of the whistle I had sent him, no charge. It turned out that the accordion I had tuned to was quite flat and that was the reason why my perfectly tuned Chieftain felt out of tune. I guess Phil just found that there was no problem with the whistle but he still needed to do something about it since I had a problem with it, so he sent me a whistle I could tune myself, a whistle that would normally be a lot more expensive, without asking anything in return. Now that is customer service which is damn hard to beat. This man has all my respect, and I can’t for the world understand why some people will always think the worst of him whatever he does.
Phil is the best, period
That is impressive!
For your benefit, Henke, for the benefit of those who attacked Azalin on the other thread, in particular those who did so rudely, and finally, for the benefit of those newcomers who have no idea what is going on here, let me spell it all out one more time.
First, there are strict rules on this board guiding promotional posts for businesses. Anybody who is seen to be trying to get around those rules, either by openly defying them, or by using website gimicks, will provoke a hostile response from some of us. (That is what Azalin was complaining about.) Nobody is singling Phil out here; others perceived to be violating the rules also get called on it. Many whistle makers contribute here without annoying anybody. Those who stick strictly to the guidelines have no problem.
Second, there are still unresolved issues over the circumstances of Phil’s parting company with Bernard Overton and Colin Goldie that go back many years. Do a search to find out what all that was about. To cut a long story short, only Phil can resolve those outstanding matters but when he addresses them they never quite seem to get resolved. So if some people seem to be unkindly disposed towards him, that has something to do with their wanting to see the unresolved issues finally resolved.
I hope that demystifies the situation for those who are puzzled.
Regardless, there is no reason why anyone who is not in the whistle crafting business cant post something positive about a whistle craftsperson in a whistle forum. If its about Phil Hardy and you think there are “unresolved issues” with him, that is not my problem.
Second, when I first got into whistles 4 years ago all I heard (on this board) was that Phil Hardy’s whistles were cheap Overton imitations from people who had been playing whistles for far longer than I have. So I shied away from them. Having now owned both of them, I can definitively say they are two completely different whistles. (Hey, I never did say thanks for the misinforming biased info, y’all!)
I point this out every time someone starts one of these “Goldie/Hardy unresolved issues” posts. No one has argued against me yet.
Yeah, and I did those searches to find out the “unresolved issues” history. All a bunch of unsubstantiated opinions. Same people who say the Chieftain is a Overton knock off. Absolutely worthless to figure out what was going on. Besides, that is between Mssrs. Goldie and Hardy and is inappropriate fodder for speculation on a whistle forum.
According to the Chiff and Fipple website, any marketing misunderstanding that existed between Overtons and Phil Hardy’s instruments was clarified back in 1998 in a posted letter from Colin Goldie to Mr. Wisely. That be 7 years ago.
If you continue to choose to be unkindly disposed towards Mr. Hardy, that is your prerogative.
I think I moved on…
Now, let’s just fill in the blanks at our own pleasure, and see if this generates 2 pages of …
Whistle reviews, as certainly as opinions others form about inividuals, are OPINIONS. Reviews can be read or not. Blue thingies can be clicked on or not. Topics about certain things can be opened or not. Making a decision about whether a maker breaches board policy is Dale’s job (and he does it well, in my OPINION) KEEPING a feud going after 7 years(on someone else’s behalf) when you have never met the individual (or have you? I apologise if so) does not improve one’s karma.
You have a mind of your own. If someone or something disagrees with you that badly, then you DON’T have to look… I don’t see anything to be gained in raining on someone’s thread in which they (and others) express their appreciation for a certain maker/whistle.
M
Who said it was your problem? Who said you can’t post positive remarks about Phil if you want to? I was responding to a statement Henke made and only to the statement. There was something he didn’t understand; I explained it to him. Where do you come in to this?
Many people have never bought Phil’s whistles because of the unresolved issues. I believe those who made comparative remarks did so sincerely. Are the whistles you like the ones he was making back then?
What is there to argue against?
Search a bit harder.
Why thanks. I was beginning to wonder.
By your own admission you had nothing to move on from.
One person asked a question. I gave an honest answer. Nothing more.
I’d like to see the feud end but it isn’t in my gift to make that happen.
Stewy comes into it because you weren’t responding solely to Henke, as you made perfectly clear when you opened your remarks thus:
Of course you could have simply PM’d Henke if you’d wanted your response to be purely personal to him. But you didn’t. And I think your “let me spell it all out one more time” was ill-conceived too, as was mentioning ‘the other thread’ (thereby carrying the flames from over there into here, unnecessarily imho).
Not surprised Stewy reacted sharply.
I think the situation es very clear: Some people is happy and share their happiness, and some people is unhappy and so they share their unhappiness 
It’s completely natural, let them share they feelings and experiences, whatever they are, so we can all move on 
You’re right Gary about my answer generalising although, frankly, I couldn’t remember exactly who had attacked Azalin on that thread. Yes, I was annoyed by the shrillness of those attacks. Perhaps I shouldn’t have been but nothing Stewy said has convinced me of that. Still I have no intention of starting a slanging match.
On the face of a 7-year feud, I frankly dont expect to convince you at all!
As I stated in the other thread, it’s very interesting to see how people resort to insults or personnal attacks when you dare go against the flow of a thread. I think this time people were able to keep this thread civilized, which is somewhat impressive.
Just to be perfectly clear, everytime I come upon a post from Phil and see his url posted in there (kerrywhistles.com) I might say something, because to me it’s just pure marketing manipulation. Only Phil knows if it’s true or not. But the fact is that he is posting his url, and this is very close to being against the rules. It’s obvious to me that generating traffic to his site, even though it’s all about “other whistle makers”, is a good thing for him. Everytime you type kerrywhistle.com, or you see it, is a good thing for him. Now, few different people in the other thread called me a child, told me to get a life, etc, and Phil himself sent some great nasty jabs of course, because I think that way.
So no matter how you love Phil, I still have a right to suggest, publicly, what I think of him posting his url. This is a public board, and we can all have different opinions on the matter. What gives you the right to tell me to “ignore” his posts? Should we all just ignore the posts we disagree with? You guys log in in here to have a little Babylon where we all agree and share the same goals? Should I apologize for bursting your bubble?
I have a link to a web site, that is commercial in nature, in my profile… I did not choose to include it as a means of advertising but to allow others to see a bit more of what I am about in my real life.
Love Phil, hate Phil or anything in between KerryWhistles is a big part of Phil’s life. Yeah, I’ve heard of the feud, I’ve “researched” it, I wasn’t there and it isn’t my feud.
So, who wants to buy a horse?
Denny
What do you take me for, a foal?
Naw, your nose is too short.
Facinating string, this. One thread regarding a whistlesmith produces a lot of warm fuzzies, another generates a lot of heat. Either way, it’s fun.
LOL. Did you really say that?
*pinching self