ITM, tunebooks and copyright law

You will need to weed through it a bit.
At a quick run through:
The Banks of the Uilleann is nonsensical it’s : The Banks of the Ilen. Frankie Gavin’s is I Have no Money. The ‘High’ looks awkward as the title indicates the tune is a high one (cf ‘The High Jig’ referring to one of Junior Crehan’s starting on high C). The John McKenna ones can go as Col. Rogers and the Happy days of youth. Lafferty’s was named Glen of Aherlow by it’s composer Sean Ryan. Your Maud Millar is not the common Maud Millar but Kitty in the Lane. Paddy O’Brien’s is The Swallow’s Nest (but composed by Paddy O’Brien, there are a few bum notes in the notation as well). Ouill’s is Quinn’s. Tom Billy’s is usually the New Postoffice (but was one of T.Billy’s tunes although not the one commonly called Tom Billy’s Reel). Tommy Coen’s and Cottage in the Grove are the same tune in different keys. It was actually Walter Sammon’s Grandfather who had the tune. Castlebar Races is the Lost and Found (although the mistake is common, see the Session.org) Dinny Delaney’s is The Hag at the Kiln, The Kilfenora is The Frost is all over (Kitty lie over, these days). Langstern Pony would be more correct. Mist Covered Mountain.

And there would be Reavey, Liz Carroll, Paddy O Brien, Sean Ryan, Junior Crehan, Breandan McGlinchey, Tommy Coen etc composed tunes in there

:laughing: I got a similar run down from Don Meade once.. :blush: you live and learn..

No harm was intended but these were glaringly obvious to me. A tune like Lafferty’s was recorded By Canny/POL/PJH as such because the ydidn’t know the name so Glen of Aherlow would jsut be that bit more correct while Lafferty’s is common enough by now. And there were a few more like that. Bank of the Uilleann though..:wink:

Bank of the Uilleann. Isn’t that where pipers keep their money? Oh, wait - pipers have no money, do they? Hence the other tune.

That’s where their savings deposit is, needed to pay for their instrument in a decade or so :wink:

Or is it like Jackie Daly’s classic ‘this tune is the Bank of Ireland’ …There’s plenty of notes in it’ ?

If you’re going to all the trouble of doing a printable version of a tunebook, over and above any considerations of copyright in the legal sense you ought to - for the sake of old decency, as someone once said - at least give credit where credit is due to known composers of the tunes. Here are some I noticed right away:

The Crock of Gold, The New Broom and Around the Fairy Fort were written by Vincent Broderick
The Golden Keyboard is by Martin Mulhaire
The Hunter’s House is one of Ed Reavy’s
The Mountain Road is usually credited to Michael Gorman, and he apparently wrote six parts to it although most everyone only plays the two-part version
The Otter’s Holt and The Mist-Covered Mountain (you call it Mist on the Mountain) are Junior Crehan’s
The Moving Cloud is by Neillidh Boyle and was written in F, rather than G as you have it
The Twelve Pins is a Charlie Lennon tune
Wissahickon Drive is from Liz Carroll
Calliope House is by Dave Richardson of The Boys of the Lough, and was actually written in E although everyone plays it in D
Dominic’s Farewell to Cashel is one of Josie McDermott’s
The Dusty Windowsills is by Johnny Harling
The Roaring Barmaid is by Tony “Sully” Sullivan (at least you got the name right on this one and didn’t call it The Butlers of Glen Avenue)
The Snowy Path is by Mark Kelly of Altan

No doubt there are some other ones that I’ve missed…

Well, he should know about those notes, being as he is from Sliabh Lucrative, right?

Reel Beatrice is another by Liz Carrol
Glen of Aherlow is a Sean Ryan one
Swallow’s nest is one of Paddy O’Brien’s
Cottage in the Grove/Tommy Coen’s by Tommy Coen
Martin Wynne’s, Paddy Fahey 's and Mulhaire’s by the men themselves

and there are composers known for the Congress and the Earl’s Chair for example.

On the other hand, I think you should acknowledge the composer in the notes but when the tune has gone into the repertoire I also feel it’s really out of their hands. Like the approach of people like Breandan mcGlinchey (I think in this collection the Glass of Beer is one of his) who is a very prolific composer but just lets his tunes go. It’s the way it should be.

I thought “Banks of Uilleann” was a kind of weirdly funny re-title…It’s one of my favorite tunes but I didn’t know if anybody out there besides me played it beyond that great Julia Clifford/Dennis Murphy cut. I always figure that last note weirds out some people who want a tonic resolution, by gawd.

I think it’s great how many helpful remarks have been offered above.

Actually, it’s not. Although she did record it, she didn’t write it. It’s a French Canadian tune.

Wow, thanks for all the notes. I definitely would like to add a composer field where it can be established. If enough history of the tune can be found, I’d like to add footnotes at the end.

Many of the tunes that are not arranged correctly are those that I have not yet learned to play and are versions I grabbed from various sources as a starting point. Usually I try to obtain a recording of the tune from my local session, learn the tune, and the edit the abc to reflect it. However, it will take years to go through the list.

The initial set list given to me by a friend when I started showing up at the local session. It didn’t seem that large back in 2001/2002 and I assumed I could learn the tunes in a year. Ha!

Thanks again for all the feedback.

The only place I’ve seen “Banks Of The Uilleann” is on a CD called “River Reel”, which has been discussed at “the session.org”. That’s the same CD that has “The Concerting Reel”.

:boggle:

Engrish comes to trad!!!

I have about 150 tunes about which, when I play any one of them, my friends say to me: “That was a disconcerting reel!”

7 years learning, 7 years practicing, 7 years playing … after 7 years waiting.

See, this is why the pipes are such a heavenly instrument: all that glorious silence, and a decent chance to move away before your neighbor gets a set.

Caj

And some ask me why I don’t take up the pipes…As the old saying goes: “I should live so long.”

See, now you’re obligated to write it.

Post the ABC here when you’re done.

Caj