For Ytliek, and anyone else....

Meaning… it was racing?
arbo

Empty,

When you get the energy, desire, I too, would greatly appreciate a transcription. I stand in awe of your talents in this area!
Arbo

Yes. Just keep asking politely.
Arbo

No, nothing at all to do with speed. Perhaps I should have said “wandering” :slight_smile:

Oh, as in playing a different tune/ending?
Arbo

I thought (based on something you said above) that you must have read my explanation of my comments to Ytliek. Not wishing to labour the point… but here it is again.

Cheers
S

You know transcription of this kind isn’t really that difficult? But checking things is time-consuming if you want all the ornamentation, tonguing and slurring rendered accurately, and that’s probably why you don’t always see MTGuru (or others who can do it) simply diving in or sometimes (because I did consider it myself) even responding at all! :wink:

If anyone else can do it, and can find the time (I’m very patient), dive in whenever with the transcription so I can learn how to do it. I did go to thesession for the tunes ABCs. I love reading about the “fixes” that occur, and quite often there are little gems in the comments.

I appreciate all the help, always, and respectfully of everyone’s time. :slight_smile:

Peter, it was your thread with the “undecided mind” that made me curious how a musician does decide, whether to/or not, to change one’s playing, or change the tune. I am curious how you are working it out for yourself, Arbo, and anyone else. :slight_smile:

Imagine yourself as you were when a child of 8 or so, with nothing better to do than scamper down the street. How do you decide when you give a little skip sideways or not step on a crack in the sidewalk or jump with both feet?

Or you’re crossing a stream by hopping from rock to rock. There are lots of possibilities. How do you decide which rock to jump onto next?

Answer: You just do it. If you stop and think about it you’ll probably end up in the river.

The tunes are the streets and the streams, and the skips and jumps and rocks are things you can do with them. You need to know your tunes, and your rocks as it were. Then just go play - skip, hop and jump with abandon.

Talking of undecided, when I listen to Arbo’s clip, the whole thing sounds undecided to me. Like a lot of the time he’s not sure what note he’s going to play next - let alone what kind of ornament or articulation - with the result that he trips himself up quite frequently. Quite bluntly I think it doesn’t bear dissecting.

Arbo, play us a tune you are sure of. :thumbsup:

What if the rocks are all slimy and slippery?

… no no don’t tell me. I suppose it would be all right if you were playing slides.

You mean slip jigs.

What a silly question. Don’t cross that river or jump onto those rocks - esp. if anyone is watching or listening. Unless, that is, you are happy making an eejit of yourself. :slight_smile:

Edit to clarify: this is not aimed at anyone in particular, certainly not at Arbo. It is better to negotiate slippery rocks (i.e. tricky passages or ornaments) in private until they cease to be treacherous. :smiley:

Through years of experience, critical listening to myself and others, plenty of mistakes and misjudgements… and a continuing sense of still not being as good as I should be or sounding quite like I thought! :wink:

I get the tip toe thru the tulips serendipity bit, however, I’m still interested in how Arbo’s tune gets worked out… refined more or less

You are absolutely correct! This was a recently learned tune. I think the uncertainty comes from that and the fact that when I tripped up, I just improvised. Please give a listen to the other posted selections as those are tunes I have worked through and are much more familiar with. Not to say the same improv won’t happen… Perhaps you would consider posting one of your ‘decided’ tunes? The nice thing about this board is that I felt one didn’t need to have something perfected to contribute and learn from. Perhaps I am just plain wrong about that? So, here is another take for everyone to consider:

https://www.box.com/s/aibad0k8grji08d8f7ax
Arbo

Wait! Am I being called an ‘eejit’ for submitting a ‘less than perfect’ tune?
Set me straight, please!
Whoa!!
Arbo

No, that was not aimed at you in any way. I will clarify the post!

I got confused as to what we are meant to be doing on this thread?

Except that one may not notice till pointed out!

Stevie, I liked the image you painted about the child playfully skipping along, trying out new steps in the process. That one makes a fool of oneself sometimes, doing so, is unavoidable. It is part of the creative process, part of not thinking steps out beforehand, and just having a go at them.

Your remark about being undecided, not being sure(-footed), and tripping up I found very helpful, noticing it in my own playing. Indecision, not being sure shows itself as loosing the rhythm, slight slippages in timing, which may only be noticed in retrospect listening to a recording of one’s playing, or by others.

Tripping up on attempted ornamentations, or phrases not internalised, is interesting, as it cannot be avoided when learning a tune. I think I cannot avoid it, full stop. Even after learning a tune, fully knowing it by heart. Maybe herein lies one difference of being “pro” or amateur.

@Arbo: thanks for bringing this great tune “Dever the Dancer” back to my awareness, and a happy hour playing it, with it, this morning! It was one of the first tunes I learned and part of never really managed well. But it is such a lovely slip jig, so I will persevere!