Ever hold a starling?

No Snopes yet :laughing:

but here’s some additional documentation.
After careful scientific observation–


we have discovered that food goes in here

…and it comes out here

My understanding is that starlings and English sparrows were introduced to the US by a Shakespeare society. Apparently they thought every bird mentioned in his plays should be flitting around Central Park in NY.

Doc

yup, it’s true :frowning:

http://www.starlingtalk.com/european_starling.htm

In 1890 about 60 starlings were imported to the United States by a group who wanted to introduce all the birds mentioned by William Shakespeare in his plays.Due to the starling’s ability to mimic human speech Shakespeare chose to include the starling in Henry IV, “The king forbade my tongue to speak of Mortimer. But I will find him when he is asleep, and in his ear I’ll holler ‘Mortimer!’ Nay I’ll have a starling shall be taught to speak nothing but Mortimer, and give it to him to keep his anger still in motion.” This is the only instance where Shakespeare mentions starlings. The starlings were released in New York City’s Central Park. Another 40 starlings were released a year later. The birds multiplied rapidly and spread into surrounding areas.

Right up there with Kudzu (brought over for erosion control).

I hate kudzu. HATE it.

The starlings and sparrows, though, even though I know they’re invasive species who are killing all the bluebirds, I find cute. Can’t help it.

Where on this blue planet

killing all the bluebirds

do you get your information?

The Cornell Lab of Ornithology, actually. See below.

The Cornell Lab of Ornithology is one of the best resources for wild bird information. Here is the link to this particular page on their website: http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Eastern_Bluebird.html#conservation

:laughing: Yes, but are they saying these noxious invaders are killing all the bluebirds?

If you can’t nest because European starlings and European sparrows are in all your nests, you can’t reproduce at the rate that’s ideal, and eventually you die. The Cornell Lab is too scientific-oriented to spell it out like that, but it’s all clearly implied.

Did you by any chance actually read the article about population trends concerning Eastern Bluebirds?

Yes, they’re increasing now because of increased human planting of appropriate nest boxes. In other words, their natural nesting places are over-run with European starlings and European sparrows. In addition, I have witness this phenomenon first-hand. It’s not that difficult to understand.

I didn’t realize all the bluebirds were being killed, I stand corrected :astonished: http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/House_Sparrow.html#conservation

Only the parts about how bluebirds</A](http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=gvobxIRYvJY">bluebirds</A)> are ravenous carnivores, dedicated to total elimination of mankind through terminal consumption.

djm

I hate it when they try to fly up your nose or through your window, very bad while driving.

The difference, which I guess you’re not seeing (?) is that House Sparrows are invasive species, whereas the bluebirds are native species being threatened by invasives.

“All” the bluebirds are not being killed by House sparrow and Starlings. The reasons for decline of the species, bluebirds, is much more complicated than the Cornell Lab website discusses. It includes pesticide poisoning, habitat loss in addition to competition with other native cavity nesters, not just Starlings and House Sparrows. But bluebirds will likely always need human intervention to maintain a healthy population size.

I call this argument off. It’s proving fruitless.

Gosh sorry

No worries. :slight_smile:

sorry?

yer missin’ an opportunity to shift the thread over to fruit bats!!!

I was goona bring up bluebird’s love of dried fruit :laughing: